Re: [conex] Fwd: Re: Fwd: IPR Disclosure: British Telecommunications plc's statement about IPR claimed in draft-ietf-conex-abstract-mech-04.txt

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On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Bob Briscoe <bob.briscoe@bt.com> wrote:

> Marcelo, Nandita, Wes, ConEx list,
>
> The IETF IPR administrator has now added the mistakenly omitted license
> terms to the end of the declaration, that is still at the same URL:
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/**ipr/1922/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1922/>
> >
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>  Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 10:02:38 +0000
>> To: marcelo bagnulo braun <marcelo@it.uc3m.es>
>> From: Bob Briscoe <bob.briscoe@bt.com>
>> Subject: Re: [conex] Fwd: IPR Disclosure: British Telecommunications
>> plc's statement about IPR claimed in draft-ietf-conex-abstract-**
>> mech-04.txt
>> Cc: "'ConEx IETF list'" <conex@ietf.org>
>>
>>
>> Marcelo and the ConEx list (including authors of affected drafts),
>>
>> All these emails relate to the same screwed up IPR disclosure, which was
>> actually meant to be good news.
>>
>> This disclosure has been screwed up - our IPR dept sent text to the IETF
>> IPR people by email, who must have then transcribed it wrongly into the
>> form - omitting the actual licensing text sent by BT's lawyer.
>>
>> It was intended to offer a royalty-free license under terms unchanged
>> from the original IPR declaration for re-ECN <
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/**ipr/651/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/651/>>,
>> which this declaration was meant to update solely by adding more drafts and
>> more patents.
>>
>> I have asked for the omitted license text to be added urgently.
>>
>> I have been asking for an update to this declaration since March 2011
>> (!!!). It has been frustrating for me, because I couldn't say in advance
>> what terms would be applied in the updated declaration, because the lawyers
>> (rightly) require that only they can state BT's licensing terms.
>>
>> It has taken this long because the IETF IPR process first required each
>> draft to be declared individually, then when the IETF admitted that all the
>> drafts could be on one form, the form couldn't handle the number of drafts,
>> so the tools team had to modify the form software.
>>
>> Although I never expected it to take this long, I kept everyone informed
>> about this:
>> * to the ConEx list and in my presentations during the ConEx BoFs (2010)
>> * to the ConEx chairs and concepts-uses authors in response to a question
>> from Nandita when concepts uses went to the IESG (26 Mar 2012)
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> At 06:41 05/12/2012, marcelo bagnulo braun wrote:
>>
>>> and the last one (for now at least)
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Mensaje original --------
>>> Asunto:         IPR Disclosure: British Telecommunications plc's
>>> statement about IPR claimed in draft-ietf-conex-abstract-**mech-04.txt
>>> Fecha:  Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:56:49 -0800
>>> De:     IETF Secretariat <ietf-ipr@ietf.org>
>>> Para:   mattmathis@google.com, bob.briscoe@bt.com
>>> CC:     wes@mti-systems.com, martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu,
>>> marcelo@it.uc3m.es, nanditad@google.com, conex@ietf.org,
>>> ipr-announce@ietf.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Matt Mathis, Bob J. Briscoe:
>>>
>>>  An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled
>>> "Congestion
>>> Exposure (ConEx) Concepts and Abstract Mechanism"
>>> (draft-ietf-conex-abstract-
>>> mech) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on 2012-11-22 and has been
>>> posted on
>>> the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures"
>>> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/**ipr/1922/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1922/>).
>>> The title of the IPR disclosure is
>>>
>>> "British Telecommunications plc's statement about IPR claimed in
>>> draft-ietf-
>>> conex-abstract-mech-04.txt."")**;
>>>
>>> The IETF Secretariat
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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