Re: [conex] IPR Disclosure: British Telecommunications plc's statement about IPR claimed in draft-ietf-conex-abstract-mech-04.txt

[Bob Briscoe <[e-mail]>]

Matt,

See my email to the ConEx list.
This was an administrative screw up - omitting the actual license text.

Bob

At 23:35 04/12/2012, Matt Mathis wrote:
>(-IETF wide and secretariat lists)
>
>Bob, without a licencing statement, this IPR disclosure essentially 
>kills ConEx.....   Why should anybody in the IETF contribute free 
>consulting to a technology which BT claims to own, and can at any 
>time in the future charge what ever it pleases?  Why should anybody 
>in any of the OS communities do the same?
>
>Random Cisco statements say something like:
>
>The reasonable non-discriminatory terms are:
>
>If this standard is adopted, Cisco will not assert any patents owned 
>or controlled by Cisco against
>any party for making, using, selling, importing or offering for sale 
>a product that implements the
>standard, provided, however that Cisco retains the right to assert 
>its patents (including the right
>to claim past royalties) against any party that asserts a patent it 
>owns or controls (either
>directly or indirectly) against Cisco or any of Cisco's affiliates 
>or successors in title or against
>any products of Cisco or any products of any of Cisco's affiliates 
>either alone or in combination
>with other products; and Cisco retains the right to assert its 
>patents against any product or
>portion thereof that is not necessary for compliance with the standard.
>
>
>I hope such language is on its way.
>
>When was the patent application first submitted?
>
>Thanks,
>--MM--
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>
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>
>On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:56 PM, IETF Secretariat 
><<mailto:[e-mail]>[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Matt Mathis, Bob J. Briscoe:
> >
> >  An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled 
> "Congestion
> > Exposure (ConEx) Concepts and Abstract Mechanism" 
> (draft-ietf-conex-abstract-
> > mech) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on 2012-11-22 and has 
> been posted on
> > the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures"
> > 
> (<https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1922/>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1922/). 
> The title of the IPR disclosure is
> > "British Telecommunications plc's statement about IPR claimed in 
> draft-ietf-
> > conex-abstract-mech-04.txt."");
> >
> > The IETF Secretariat
> >

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Bob Briscoe,                                BT Innovate & Design