Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals
John Leslie <john@jlc.net> Fri, 07 October 2011 22:53 UTC
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From: John Leslie <john@jlc.net>
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Subject: Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals
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Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ikr.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote: > > I agree with you and Richard that usually it shouldn't make a big > difference, but... > >>> In TCP if a packet get lost (with SACK) we only know how many >>> payload got lost. We do not know the number of packets/headers >>> that were used to transmit this data. If we would lose one big >>> packet and then retransmit a large number of small packets instead >>> (which are all ConEx marked) that might give quite a different >>> ConEx signal. >> >> (That's not an unreasonable case.) (But it is yet another case where the sender may be unaware, and the receiver almost certainly will be unaware, of the packet overhead.) > ... we have to consider those kind on cases if there might be a > disadvantage or an advantage or even the possible to cheat the > policing system for some users. I'd prefer we _didn't_ invite random middleboxes to police senders they think are abusing the system. It's not necessary to the information flow, and experience shows it becomes a game of whack-a-mole. :^( -- John Leslie <john@jlc.net>
- [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals John Leslie
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals John Leslie
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Christopher Morrow
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Bob Briscoe
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Christopher Morrow
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals John Leslie
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Bob Briscoe
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals John Leslie
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Bob Briscoe
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals John Leslie
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals John Leslie
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Bob Briscoe
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Bob Briscoe
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [conex] Accounting of ConEx signals Mirja Kuehlewind