Re: [core-parameters] Core content-format number allocation
Klaus Hartke <hartke@projectcool.de> Fri, 25 May 2018 09:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [core-parameters] Core content-format number allocation
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What about “CMC-Response”? There’s a registry for “smime-type” values at https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-type-sub-parameters/media-type-sub-parameters.xhtml#smime Would it make sense to simply allocate a Content-Format ID to each of them? The media type and the content coding are orthogonal. However, “binary” is not a valid content coding. (It’s really confusing that the column is labeled “Encoding”; content coding is what is meant.) Possible content codings are listed in https://www.iana.org/assignments/http-parameters/http-parameters.xhtml#content-coding You probably want the “identity“ content coding. “application/pkcs8” and the other two media types don’t have the “smime-type” parameter defined, so just remove that bit. Otherwise the table looks good to me. Klaus On Fri 25. May 2018 at 10:58, peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl> wrote: > HI Klaus, > > Thanks for the quick reaction, and thanks for pointing out some existing > other smime types. > I did a search in RFC 7030, and came up with other necessary smime > types. > > Below the table as required for est-coap draft: (I will change the draft > accordingly) > > - application/pkcs7-mime; smime-type=“server-generated-key”; Encoding = > "binary"; ID = TBD1; Reference = RFC5751, RFC7030 > - application/pkcs7-mime; smime-type=“certs-only”; Encoding = "binary"; > ID = TBD2; Reference = RFC5751 > - application/pkcs7-mime; smime-type=“CMC-request”; Encoding = "binary"; > ID = TBD3; Reference = RFC5751, RFC5273 > - application/pkcs8; smime-type = ---; Encoding = "binary"; ID = TBD4; > Reference = RFC5958 > - application/csrattrs; smime-type = ---; Encoding = "binary"; ID = > TBD5; Reference = RFC7030 > - application/pkcs10; smime-type = ---; Encoding = "binary"; ID = TBD6; > Reference = RFC5967 > > I expect the Encoding is orthogonal to the media type and smime type > specification. > > Many thanks, > > peter > > Klaus Hartke schreef op 2018-05-25 09:48: > > Hi Peter, > > > > I see you’re requesting Content-Format IDs for the following > > existing media types: > > > > - application/pkcs7-mime > > - application/pkcs8 > > - application/csrattrs > > - application/pkcs10 > > > > A Content-Format is the combination of a media type and a content > > coding. Please specify the content coding(s) you want to use with each > > media type. The possible set of content codings can be found at > > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/http-parameters/http-parameters.xhtml#content-coding > > > > Please format your request as a table that looks like Table 9 in > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7252#section-12.3 (one row for each > > combination of a media type and a content coding) > > > > It seems “application/pkcs7-mime“ actually does define a media > > type parameter, “smime-type ”. RFC 5751 says: > > > > Because there are several types of application/pkcs7-mime objects, > > a > > sending agent SHOULD do as much as possible to help a receiving > > agent > > know about the contents of the object without forcing the receiving > > agent to decode the ASN.1 for the object. The Content-Type header > > field of all application/pkcs7-mime objects SHOULD include the > > optional "smime-type" parameter, as described in the following > > sections. > > > > So it seems the parameter is more or less required. Do you want to > > register a Content-Format ID for each defined smime-type value? Then > > the list of media types (that need to be paired with a content coding) > > looks like this: > > > > - application/pkcs7-mime; smime-type=“enveloped-data” > > - application/pkcs7-mime; smime-type=“signed-data” > > - application/pkcs7-mime; smime-type=“certs-only” > > - application/pkcs7-mime; smime-type=“compressed-data” > > - application/pkcs8 > > - application/csrattrs > > - application/pkcs10 > > > > Klaus > > > > On Fri 25. May 2018 at 09:27, peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl> > > wrote: > > > >> Dear core parameter experts, > >> > >> In draft-ietf-ace-coap-est we want to allocate content format > >> numbers to > >> 4 already existing media formats. > >> LWM2M people are implementing the est-coaps specification and want > >> to > >> deploy it as quickly as possible. > >> Therefore, they need to know the allocated numbers to write into > >> their > >> code. > >> An early allocation before publication of the draft as RFC will be > >> appreciated. > >> > >> Below the IANA text from the draft, using TBD1 - TBD4 as allocated > >> numbers. > >> > >> Many thanks, > >> > >> peter > >> > >> > > > __________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> 8.1. Content-Format registry > >> > >> Additions to the sub-registry "CoAP Content-Formats", within the > >> "CoRE Parameters" registry are needed for the below media types. > >> These can be registered either in the Expert Review range > >> (0-255) or > >> IETF Review range (256-9999). > >> > >> 1. > >> > >> * application/pkcs7-mime > >> * Type name: application > >> * Subtype name: pkcs7-mime > >> * ID: TBD1 > >> * Required parameters: None > >> * Optional parameters: None > >> * Encoding considerations: binary > >> * Security considerations: As defined in this specification > >> * Published specification: [RFC5751] > >> * Applications that use this media type: EST > >> > >> 2. > >> > >> * application/pkcs8 > >> * Type name: application > >> * Subtype name: pkcs8 > >> * ID: TBD2 > >> * Required parameters: None > >> * Optional parameters: None > >> * Encoding considerations: binary > >> * Security considerations: As defined in this specification > >> * Published specification: [RFC5958] > >> * Applications that use this media type: EST > >> > >> 3. > >> > >> * application/csrattrs > >> * Type name: application > >> * Subtype name: csrattrs > >> * ID: TBD3 > >> * Required parameters: None > >> * Optional parameters: None > >> * Encoding considerations: binary > >> * Security considerations: As defined in this specification > >> * Published specification: [RFC7030] > >> * Applications that use this media type: EST > >> > >> 4. > >> > >> * application/pkcs10 > >> * Type name: application > >> * Subtype name: pkcs10 > >> * ID: TBD4 > >> * Required parameters: None > >> * Optional parameters: None > >> * Encoding considerations: binar > >> * Security considerations: As defined in this specification > >> * Published specification: [RFC5967] > >> * Applications that use this media type: EST > >> > >> > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> -- > >> Peter van der Stok > >> vanderstok consultancy > >> mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org > >> www: www.vanderstok.org [1] > >> tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> core-parameters mailing list > >> core-parameters@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core-parameters > > > > > > Links: > > ------ > > [1] http://www.vanderstok.org >
- [core-parameters] Core content-format number allo… peter van der Stok
- Re: [core-parameters] Core content-format number … Klaus Hartke
- Re: [core-parameters] Core content-format number … peter van der Stok
- Re: [core-parameters] Core content-format number … Klaus Hartke
- Re: [core-parameters] Core content-format number … peter van der Stok
- Re: [core-parameters] Core content-format number … Klaus Hartke
- Re: [core-parameters] Core content-format number … Esko Dijk