Re: [core] WG Adoption Call for draft-fz-core-coap-pm

Giuseppe Fioccola <giuseppe.fioccola@huawei.com> Wed, 19 April 2023 13:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: [core] WG Adoption Call for draft-fz-core-coap-pm
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Hi Marco, All,
Thank you for the update.
I will resubmit the draft as draft-ietf-core-coap-pm-00 soon.

Regards,

Giuseppe

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Subject: Re: [core] WG Adoption Call for draft-fz-core-coap-pm

Dear all,

This mail closes the Adoption Call. The in-room consensus has been confirmed and there has been no objection.

The draft is adopted as a CoRE Working Group document.

Authors, please resubmit the draft as a Working Group document draft-ietf-core-coap-pm.

We will soon setup a related Github repository.

Thanks,
/Marco
On 2023-04-13 12:29, Giuseppe Fioccola wrote:

Hi Esko,

Thank you for the support and for the suggestions.

Your proposal is a viable possibility. With two variants, the PM Option can be processed by non-caching proxies in the case of the Safe-to-Forward variant. It is assumed that the capabilities (caching/non-caching) of the endpoints are known a priori, in order to select the suitable variant. Otherwise, the Option is treated as Unsafe.



Regards,



Giuseppe



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From: core <core-bounces@ietf.org><mailto:core-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Esko Dijk

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Subject: Re: [core] WG Adoption Call for draft-fz-core-coap-pm



Hi all,



I also support the adoption of this document. Although I don't know the details of the method used, it looks very low-overhead for constrained devices and networks, and is based on an already-established method.



The abstract indicates that both end-to-end and hop-by-hop scenarios are useful. So it could be an idea to propose 2 variants of the Option (with different Option Numbers), e.g. it might be



   * one which is Unsafe and one which is Safe-to-Forward.  (In case proxies not knowing about this Option need to forward it - not sure if that's desired.)

   * or, both are Unsafe-to-forward and one Option variant is never forwarded and one Option variant is only forwarded by a Proxy that knows about this Option (so it can be used across multiple CoAP hops)





Regards

Esko



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From: core <core-bounces@ietf.org><mailto:core-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Tianran Zhou

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To: Marco Tiloca <marco.tiloca=40ri.se@dmarc.ietf.org><mailto:marco.tiloca=40ri.se@dmarc.ietf.org>; core@ietf.org<mailto:core@ietf.org>

Subject: Re: [core] WG Adoption Call for draft-fz-core-coap-pm



Hi Chairs and WG,



I support the adoption of this document as coauthor.



Best,

Tianran



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Subject: [core] WG Adoption Call for draft-fz-core-coap-pm



Dear all,



During the CoRE session at IETF 116, there was in-room consensus on the WG supporting the adoption of draft-fz-core-coap-pm [1].



This mail starts a 2 week Working Group Adoption Call for this document.



Please provide your feedback by replying to this mail before Wednesday,

12 April 2023.



Best,

/Marco



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