Re: [core] πŸ”” WGLC for Resource Directory

Peter van der Stok <stokcons@bbhmail.nl> Wed, 29 May 2019 07:49 UTC

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Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 09:49:28 +0200
From: Peter van der Stok <stokcons@bbhmail.nl>
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Subject: Re: [core] πŸ”” WGLC for Resource Directory
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HI Ted,

RFC 6775 explicitly discourages multicast over the mesh network.
Neighbour discovery is done with link-local broadcast, replaced with
unicast whenever possible.
In the mesk all 6LR know the addresses of their neighbouring 6LR.
The 6LBR only needs to know the addresses of the neigbouring 6LR,
obtained with with one broadcast and n unicasts.

Sending a multicast form each node to learn the address of the RD
generates many more messages in a multihop mesh.

Does this answer the question below?

Greetings,

Peter
Ted Lemon schreef op 2019-05-28 19:43:

> On May 27, 2019, at 12:31 AM, Peter van der Stok <stokcons@bbhmail.nl> wrote: 
> 
>> For example, in those cases a border router is present once a month for a few hours to read out data.
>> No RDA0 option,  avoid multicast, no host names. Therefore, the configured RD IP address seems reasonable.
> 
> Isn't it the case generally that in order for the device to know that there is a BR present, the BR has to do some kind of multicast?