Re: [core] Using CoAP for P2P

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Mon, 06 April 2020 11:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [core] Using CoAP for P2P
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Hi Abhijan,

> On 2020-04-05, at 14:16, Abhijan Bhattacharyya <abhijan.bhattacharyya@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Probably what can  be standardized is a method for signalling and exchanging the ICE candidates so that end nodes can mutually push the data to the other. 

Have we already established that you do need ICE?
I agree that in a NATted, IPv4 environment ICE is a good way to obtain useful address pairs.
Can you run your application in a clean IPv6 environment?
Then you don’t need ICE; everything just falls into place.

Grüße, Carsten