Re: [core] Time Scale Option
Klaus Hartke <hartke@projectcool.de> Tue, 29 May 2018 09:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [core] Time Scale Option
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Wouldn't ACK_TIMEOUT, MAX_LATENCY, etc. need to be adjusted, since EXCHANGE_LIFETIME is just a calculated value? Klaus On 29 May 2018 at 11:01, Laurent Toutain <laurent.toutain@imt-atlantique.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > > > We have published few month ago a draft defining a new CoAP option. > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-toutain-core-time-scale/ > > > The main idea is to inform a server when devices will not have the same > reaction time. Current CoAP RFC defines a default 5 minutes window during > which any message will be consider as a retransmission. This delay is too > small for LPWAN network, where small bandwidth, duty cycles are introducing > larger delays. One solution is to change the default window value, but this > period will be too long for “regular” devices and force the server to > memorize more message ID. > > > > That’s why we propose the Time Scale option, the client informs the server > of the window period where messages will be considered as retransmitted. The > server will be informed for this device and will adapt its timers. > > > > We would like to know, as we discussed during London IETF, what is the > position of the core wg on this option. > > > > Ana and Laurent > > > > _______________________________________________ > core mailing list > core@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core >
- [core] Time Scale Option Laurent Toutain
- Re: [core] Time Scale Option Klaus Hartke
- Re: [core] Time Scale Option Laurent Toutain