IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [core] progressing ietf-core-yang-cbor and ietf-core-sid

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Thu, 16 January 2020 00:28 UTC

Return-Path: <andy@yumaworks.com>
X-Original-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: core@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0F612008F for <core@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 16:28:12 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.898
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yumaworks-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iVY1E5mD9_bG for <core@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 16:28:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-lj1-x22a.google.com (mail-lj1-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F76B120113 for <core@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 16:28:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-lj1-x22a.google.com with SMTP id u1so20604599ljk.7 for <core@ietf.org>; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 16:28:09 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yumaworks-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=yLrlPDHoq9H2m+o9QNtDEgocoPtM4tPZ8ekORX2wE2E=; b=YnXUzkEHYVjl4yC4ltk9hEtEuayn5xkF3ElH4x/8YKW6t5dwSvtSf+eL0WFjexFy9f 5D3FRCEHTK7l3TF1mROSe8LiZJMAk4Z1lNQ7Y+TqC8Y4H/O8RDjXd/eyMcHQuu1+uQLj wjEbtW3uzwn9Zsc8VCHOpvwPsCeWNqZalgaJIzSNCgcuH2FaBHVW1D+YHsx/k2PJpjyz Xfs4Cn18b9TD82ABpixYSCDz8Z9bTUVx7gMhBd6OE5u8DmRpxl/mNgPI70DpBuJrzH+8 2wnRzPeutsp0OoxjuJM0/ZCflj/xuSGqREf7HoeJd8taDdpLSQDOnd2Nym+fcuFD3CTc jQcw==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yLrlPDHoq9H2m+o9QNtDEgocoPtM4tPZ8ekORX2wE2E=; b=ctHeALY1aSL3UTBV48ejvNep/HQIjas+82IKwN71HizhickAgXxW8xMpHOPyb48n0j 1noFXyJyWmCiXnO1q5bq0cXln/20xFXIjitjOyKUybOA21hQQ2KEKnFxI4OL1AP7+/cn MRsTcAliUkzYC4xNPtYEmGGNH4g2J3pQv+WLm8O9DtdKxhCHzZHtIsm2cGYJN4XDWxd4 PaH9Rh4ygRyJWPadshmbJEOooifxZI1iytanCzHFcV67hl8Ts9866LbKJ02+LBAvrRLG UACu4u99+HsdJdm/QF4mR4/TWg9H/+SMUrj0au7MWrrxhys3snimaE+nTM3K6y7+yaPf 3HDg==
X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWzfgCIx1hAXgvfaYMEhoG4iuhNPuqA3R5t68+Z/2QG+aoMFDV3 y2kzAiUm5IWFOHiDeDSOQWbGfI0PPgEQ4VD+bYCpIg==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzoWXRtELAuFFjkTA3Vr3w8Xc6jkGU96fPLpr9vDMN1XqFJ70oXvRjM2PujwyKkGmMp/PWReE8QfNtY9gJhcx4=
X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9596:: with SMTP id w22mr505178ljh.21.1579134487449; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 16:28:07 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <29380.1565102380@localhost> <BL0PR06MB50428065032ECC2AB3345F619AD70@BL0PR06MB5042.namprd06.prod.outlook.com> <7505.1565633977@localhost> <BL0PR06MB50424C618A704460E4A8F8D99AA90@BL0PR06MB5042.namprd06.prod.outlook.com> <18990.1577231446@localhost> <CAJFkdRyWOfCb4U09rEJ-ZMR3GUuk-rmQ+f3Fs164Mxs8qkeVuw@mail.gmail.com> <22612.1578626081@localhost> <CAJFkdRztFUxdGcdvtTgB=9c-e_BwDAgLTmVPJ+OB8-dgs1sGog@mail.gmail.com> <15754.1578789013@localhost> <CAJFkdRy_3pC37ZxzhTmzqRgWjwDvEFTuhu5Z8+_ktaJgoeOGfg@mail.gmail.com> <6025.1578939111@localhost> <F67A7C80-0955-4836-9B84-66CB52AB6FD9@tzi.org> <26398.1579112884@localhost> <0805B57C-3DCB-4601-976C-2D51CE812312@tzi.org> <CABCOCHRj-9OP_6E_pudSvKNPqTL9Kw8w-CftcoLkdxpzn2Tx1g@mail.gmail.com> <17100.1579133523@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <17100.1579133523@localhost>
From: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 16:27:56 -0800
Message-ID: <CABCOCHSoDN_x3kuTyvnLfarsh21TZ1cqGWSbt+65TAvnP2AFpg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
Cc: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, Core <core@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002d69d3059c36e69a"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/core/T1HCWpzQzmHNmBecCiidPw3ho38>
Subject: Re: [core] progressing ietf-core-yang-cbor and ietf-core-sid
X-BeenThere: core@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Constrained RESTful Environments \(CoRE\) Working Group list" <core.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/core>, <mailto:core-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/core/>
List-Post: <mailto:core@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:core-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/core>, <mailto:core-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 00:28:13 -0000

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:12 PM Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
wrote:

>
> Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote:
>     > As a hypothetical, let's assume there are undetected bugs in a SID
> file
>     > or across the entire set of SID files. How do they get corrected?
> The
>     > SID file itself contains no metadata indicating it is a corrected
>     > revision of a previous SID file.
>
> I guess revising the YANG date is too big a hammer.
>

That needs to stay the same, because the YANG module is not changing and
this field needs to
match the YANG file.


>
>     > This has already proven to be a problem for YANG, and it has the
>     > deviation-stmt which can be used in some cases to correct broken YANG
>     > in another YANG file.
>
>     > A SID file is just a JSON instance file.  There are no defined
>     > mechanisms to correct a SID file from IANA or anywhere else.
> Perhaps a
>     > "sid-file-revision" field in the SID file would help.
>
> I agree, that would be worthwhile.
>

This would make it possible to correct a SID file and still support the
broken version(s)
that might be deployed already. IANA would only need to maintain the latest
sid-file-revision.
I suggest a simple integer, not a datestamp.


> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
>  -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
>
>
>
>
Andy

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email