Re: [core] I-D Action: draft-ietf-core-new-block-02.txt

Marco Tiloca <marco.tiloca@ri.se> Thu, 29 October 2020 14:44 UTC

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Hi Med,

On 2020-10-29 10:19, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> Hi all, 
>
> We published the -02 as per the plan presented in the interim. The main changes are to reflect the outcomes of the interim:
> (1) Add a statement that either both or neither options can be supported.
> (2) Add an implementation note about how tokens are handled. 
> (3) Change the name of the options.
> (4) Add a clarification about the behaviour when multiple instances of Q-Block2 are included. 
> (5) Remove the "MUST NOT" restriction on 2.31 (Continue) as a provision to (9). 
> (6) Clarify what is meant by "repeat request". Marco, please check if the NEW wording is better.  

==>MT
Yes, the new text looks good, as well as having flipped the meaning of
the M bit. Thanks for this update!

Best,
/Marco
<==

> (7) Overflow discussion. Michael, please check and let us know if we need to say more. 
> (8) Update the CDDL and add an implementation note to suggest the use of indefinite-length arrays.
> (9) Add a note about the ACK_TIMEOUT delay after MAX_PAYLOADS. 
>
> We are waiting for the feedback from the WG whether (9) is worth to be solved at the CoAP level. This is the main pending issue that we would like to fix before asking for the WGLC (https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailarchive.ietf.org%2Farch%2Fmsg%2Fcore%2FuoXMI8vcsGoto6fa1GpgftXS-cU%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cmarco.tiloca%40ri.se%7Cda58ad6f454847d9eb6308d87bebc107%7C5a9809cf0bcb413a838a09ecc40cc9e8%7C0%7C0%7C637395600621436441%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=nUjooRkYtNoo1QpHPEK0D4kc7%2FLg0fexRtTKkjI55Oc%3D&amp;reserved=0). 
>
> Please review and share your comments.
>
> Cheers,
> Jon & Med
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
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>> Objet : [core] I-D Action: draft-ietf-core-new-block-02.txt
>>
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Constrained RESTful Environments WG
>> of the IETF.
>>
>>         Title           : Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP)
>> Block-Wise Transfer Options for Faster Transmission
>>         Authors         : Mohamed Boucadair
>>                           Jon Shallow
>> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-core-new-block-02.txt
>> 	Pages           : 25
>> 	Date            : 2020-10-29
>>
>> Abstract:
>>    This document specifies alternative Constrained Application
>> Protocol
>>    (CoAP) Block-Wise transfer options: Q-Block1 and Q-Block2
>> Options.
>>
>>    These options are similar to the CoAP Block1 and Block2 Options,
>> not
>>    a replacement for them, but do enable faster transmission rates
>> for
>>    large amounts of data with less packet interchanges as well as
>>    supporting faster recovery should any of the blocks get lost in
>>    transmission.
>>
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