Re: [core] Call for comments on draft-ietf-core-problem-details-07
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From: Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [core] Call for comments on draft-ietf-core-problem-details-07
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Hi, Having followed the document progress and discussions from the early requirements to current state, I agree that the way forward suggested below, and keeping the document together, is the right thing to do. Thanks for all the good work to make this happen! Cheers, Ari On 29.6.2022, 21.34, "core" <core-bounces@ietf.org> wrote: Hi all, (with chair hat off) I agree with the suggestion below and support keeping this document as is. Best, /Marco On 2022-06-29 19:54, Francesca Palombini wrote: Hi all, I have reviewed this thread [1], and the updates to the document: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-core-problem-details/<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-454445555731-d188d87f92f01c2b&q=1&e=182c0541-7ea3-4df7-ba1b-e6c5d06f0421&u=https%3A%2F%2Feur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fdatatracker.ietf.org%252Fdoc%252Fdraft-ietf-core-problem-details%252F%26data%3D05%257C01%257Cmarco.tiloca%2540ri.se%257C2fc3615471b34245267d08da59f86128%257C5a9809cf0bcb413a838a09ecc40cc9e8%257C0%257C0%257C637921220568927979%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C3000%257C%257C%257C%26sdata%3DAuh2DCV7sWoKY1QtYX4jS2yyY6OxE6cp3xLDqrfKSZ4%253D%26reserved%3D0> . First of all, thanks everybody for the reviews, the discussion and for the work on the document - I do believe the document is in better shape now. V-05 was reviewed by the IESG, and responses to AD reviews have resulted in v-06. Changes from v-06 to v-07 are the result to Harald's Last Call review and consequent discussion, which has happened over the Last-Call mailing list (cc’ing the CoRE and ART mailing lists). For this reason I believe that the community is aware of the changes, and people who are interested have been able to follow and participate in the discussion, and that a second Last Call is not needed, as it would only add a "process delay" and not help progress. I also want to note that I have alerted the IESG of the recent updates and my evaluation of not needing another Last Call, added the document as a management item to next telechat to make sure all the ADs are aware, and welcome updated ballots following v-07 changes. Regarding the comments received, it is my opinion that most comments have been addressed: the only outstanding point I can see people not agreeing on is if the Appendix should be split into its own document or kept as is. With the basis that keeping the tag in was what the WG agreed on, and with the knowledge that we have both a mechanism to address future updates to the tag, if needs arise, and to update the reference in the IANA registry, if the problem details doc is itself updated, in the interest of progressing this work without creating further delays, I suggest to keep the document as is. If anybody has significant objections to the summary above, or substantive unresolved issues with draft-ietf-core-problem-details-07 that would benefit from more discussion, please raise them by July 6th. Thanks all again for your input and work, Francesca [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/last-call/21YQX6ZIxjvQCHYxrNci-rDETaU/<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-454445555731-64802c8de025ebf1&q=1&e=182c0541-7ea3-4df7-ba1b-e6c5d06f0421&u=https%3A%2F%2Feur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmailarchive.ietf.org%252Farch%252Fmsg%252Flast-call%252F21YQX6ZIxjvQCHYxrNci-rDETaU%252F%26data%3D05%257C01%257Cmarco.tiloca%2540ri.se%257C2fc3615471b34245267d08da59f86128%257C5a9809cf0bcb413a838a09ecc40cc9e8%257C0%257C0%257C637921220568927979%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C3000%257C%257C%257C%26sdata%3DI8sXZ7yrVDFiGzCbLxS16mIYxWl3ZwJqNIxA2hoJXe4%253D%26reserved%3D0> -- Marco Tiloca Ph.D., Senior Researcher Phone: +46 (0)70 60 46 501 RISE Research Institutes of Sweden AB Box 1263 164 29 Kista (Sweden) Division: Digital Systems Department: Computer Science Unit: Cybersecurity https://www.ri.se<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-454445555731-3d296ae5721cac2b&q=1&e=182c0541-7ea3-4df7-ba1b-e6c5d06f0421&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ri.se%2F>
- [core] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-core… Harald Alvestrand via Datatracker
- Re: [core] [art] Artart last call review of draft… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [art] Artart last call review of draft… Francesca Palombini
- Re: [core] [art] Artart last call review of draft… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] [art] Artart last call review of draft… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] [art] Artart last call review of draft… Ira McDonald
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Ira McDonald
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [art] Artart last call review of draft… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… Ira McDonald
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… John C Klensin
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… tom petch
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… tom petch
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Ira McDonald
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… tom petch
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… John C Klensin
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… John C Klensin
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… John C Klensin
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… tom petch
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] [art] Artart last call review of draft… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] [art] Artart last call review of draft… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… John C Klensin
- Re: [core] [art] Artart last call review of draft… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [art] Artart last call review of draft… Carsten Bormann
- [core] Thank you! -- Re: [art] Artart last call r… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] Thank you! -- Re: [art] Artart last ca… Francesca Palombini
- Re: [core] [art] Artart last call review of draft… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [art] Artart last call review of draft… Thomas Fossati
- [core] Call for comments on draft-ietf-core-probl… Francesca Palombini
- Re: [core] Call for comments on draft-ietf-core-p… Marco Tiloca
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… John C Klensin
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… John C Klensin
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] Call for comments on draft-ietf-core-p… Ari Keränen
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Thomas Fossati
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] Call for comments on draft… tom petch
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] Call for comments on draft… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Francesca Palombini
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] Call for comments on draft… Francesca Palombini
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] Call for comments on draft… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] Call for comments on draft… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Call for comments on… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Call for comments on… tom petch
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Call for comments on… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Thomas Fossati
- Re: [core] Call for comments on draft-ietf-core-p… Hubert Przybysz
- Re: [core] [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call rev… Francesca Palombini
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [core] [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call rev… Martin J. Dürst
- [core] Obsoletes Re: [art] [Last-Call] Artart las… tom petch
- Re: [core] Call for comments on draft-ietf-core-p… Francesca Palombini
- Re: [core] [art] Obsoletes Re: [Last-Call] Artart… John C Klensin
- Re: [core] [art] Obsoletes Re: [Last-Call] Artart… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [core] [art] Obsoletes Re: [Last-Call] Artart… tom petch
- Re: [core] [art] Obsoletes Re: [Last-Call] Artart… Carsten Bormann