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Re: [core] CBOR Encoding of Data Modeled with YANG

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Tue, 08 December 2015 15:14 UTC

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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [core] CBOR Encoding of Data Modeled with YANG
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On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 03:54:23PM +0100, Alexander Pelov wrote:
> Le 08/12/2015 15:01, Juergen Schoenwaelder a écrit :
> >On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 02:10:44PM +0100, Alexander Pelov wrote:
> >>Dear Juergen,
> >>
> >>Thanks for the great remarks! Indeed, we have had lots of lengthy
> >>discussions on the way structured data node IDs work, and there are
> >>several ways to handle the situations you describe.
> >>
> >>We've reached a consensus to first detail the most demanded and least
> >>controversial part - the YANG-CBOR mapping. Having structured data node
> >>IDs allows for all existing designs to operate with this.
> >Who is 'we'?
> The WG during the last IETF, and the main contributors to the CoMI and 
> CoOL drafts.

For me, a YANG to CBOR mapping without a definition how names are
represented in CBOR is incomplete, not interoperable, and hence not
a useful result. Hard problems are not solved by pushing them around.

/js

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