Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 21 March 2022 22:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int
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Laurence Lundblade <lgl@island-resort.com> wrote: > Let me try to be more clear. > The COSE standard now is: > kid => bstr > If we make this change: > kid => int / bstr > then we break backwards compatibility for COSE as Mike pointed out I don't think that this breaks *compatibility* Old signed objects are still valid. Things signed with a kid => int are incompatible with old implementations, but so is "intkid => int", so there is no difference. If you need to send stuff to an old implementations (and the COSE ecosystem is very very young), then can just stick to bstr format kids. Old implementations can't process new things. That's life. Building things so that new features mean something to new implementations, but are ignored by old implementations is called backwards compatibility. But you can't have that anyway in this case. It's one of the features of CBOR, as a self-describing format, that we can introduce new ways to do things. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Göran Selander
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Göran Selander
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Orie Steele
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Göran Selander
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Orie Steele
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Orie Steele
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Göran Selander
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Orie Steele
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Anders Rundgren
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Mike Prorock
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Orie Steele
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Michael Richardson
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Carsten Bormann
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Anders Rundgren
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Göran Selander
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Orie Steele
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Anders Rundgren
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Carsten Bormann
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Christian Amsüss
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- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Tobias Looker
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Anders Rundgren
- [COSE] draft-looker-cose-bls-key-representations Anders Rundgren
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Michael Richardson
- Re: [COSE] draft-looker-cose-bls-key-representati… Orie Steele
- Re: [COSE] draft-looker-cose-bls-key-representati… Anders Rundgren
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Michael Richardson
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Carsten Bormann
- Re: [COSE] Key identifier of type bstr / int Laurence Lundblade