Re: Syntax
Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Mon, 08 January 2007 09:31 UTC
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Stephane Bortzmeyer schrieb: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 06:12:09PM +0100, > Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote > a message of 31 lines which said: > >> 1) Although the language is designed to be used in IDs and RFCs, >> restricting it to ASCII here is IMHO a very bad idea. After all, you >> may want to use it for other specifications, and the IETF may lift >> the current restrictions at some point of time. I would suggest to >> require a specific text encoding such as UTF-8, > > Any idea about the support of UTF-8 in typical languages *and* parsing > tools? For instance, with C and Yacc, I assume it is quite > difficult. With Haskell, I'm not sure :-) Well, I've been living in Java world for a long time, so I really can't say anything useful about other languages anymore. > The problem of UTF-8 is that many assumptions no longer hold: > > * case insensitivity becomes a problem, > * enumeration of "reasonable" characters become a complex task. That's a problem with Unicode (the character set), not UTF-8 (the encoding). Yes, case insensitivity is harder, but is this relevant for cosmogol, if everything stays case-sensitive (which I think is the right thing to do)? Choosing characters for identifiers: again, just borrow from somewhere else, such as <http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/#NT-Name>). > I'm a big fan of internationalization and Unicode but, since Cosmogol > is intended for a technical and limited use, is it reasonable? I think inventing a new format, but not taking I18N is very hard to defend. As far as I can tell, there's no real chance to get it published. > Anyway, I recorded the point as a TODO (we do not have a formal issue > tracker) in the draft source. Other advices? Let's leave it at this for now. Best regards, Julian _______________________________________________ Cosmogol mailing list Cosmogol@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cosmogol
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