Re: Syntax
Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Wed, 10 January 2007 21:44 UTC
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Frank Ellermann schrieb: > Julian Reschke wrote: > >> What does this have to do with XML 1.1? Or with XML at all? > > XML 1.1 and 1.0 differ wrt to attribute names and other identifiers. > IIRC, I'm too lazy to check this now (but if you want me I'd try) XML 1.1 has extended the set of name characters, but it included many non-ASCII characters in XML 1.0 already. So the situation hasn't changed significantly. >>> It should work with any parser on any platform, including MS DOS >>> before 3.2 or the BASIC interpreter written by Bill Gates 198? >>> under CP/M. :-( > >> Where did you get that requirement from? > > Looking at my own OS/2 box without UTF-8 I got an old gawk and > REXX to implement this. We'd want to transform the state machines > into other languages for presentation etc., for that we need KISS, > and no obscure escape mechanisms requiring native Unicode support. Well. Do you have a C compiler? I'm sure there are decent UTF-8 libs, such as in expat. It should compile on your OS/2 box, it sure did compile on my Atari TT seven years ago. > On GMaNe the descricption for this list is: > "About languages for state machines in RFCs, especially Cosmogol". > > RFCs are plain text US ASCII at the moment, and they always were. > At some point in time that will change, but not _here_ and _now_ But that's not for us to decide. I simply think that inventing new notations without taking care of non-ASCII characters is a good idea. >> if the language allows textual content (such as comments), it >> should better handle non-ASCII characters > > Together with ABNF and similar constructs. In the same way as > it's done there. Not in some ad hoc backslash notation borrowed >>from C, or the 􃑖 in RFC 4646, we'd want exactly the same > solution as for among others ABNF comments. Without a crystal > ball we can't tell what this will be - I guess it won't be the > C or RFC 4646 notation, but native UTF-8. I think that what I proposed *was* native UTF-8. Best regards, Julian _______________________________________________ Cosmogol mailing list Cosmogol@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cosmogol
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- Re: Syntax Clive D.W. Feather
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- Re: Syntax Stephane Bortzmeyer
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- OT: ABNF (was: Syntax) Frank Ellermann
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