Re: Require guidance on Unicode in IETF formats
Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> Wed, 21 March 2007 10:28 UTC
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>>>> "Stephane" == Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> writes: >> Given that ASCII and Latin-1 is a proper subset of Unicode, I >> don't understand how permitting Unicode makes tools for writing >> SMDL harder. Stephane> Because Unicode is a superset of ASCII. So, if you develop Stephane> with ASCII-only tools, they may not be able to process all Stephane> Cosmogol files, only those written in pure ASCII. No. If I develop with ASCII-only *WRITING* tools, then I can't type Unicode, so I can always process my own files. Of course, the *PROCESSING* tools need to be unicode. That's not the same as saying that my Emacs needs to unicode. >> For me, I'm thinking that this is mostly text editors, and some >> gui tools that would mostly *export* a SMDL. i.e. that we work >> mostly in latex-style. Stephane> No, the typical Cosmogol tools are not editors (Cosmogol Stephane> is, by design, a text-based language, so you can use any Stephane> editor), they are checkers, translators, etc. Same as with Stephane> ABNF. Cosmogol WRITING tools are EDITORS. Cosmogol PROCESSING tools are checkers,translators,etc. >> Is that really that much harder? Stephane> I suggested that people post here "implementation reports" Stephane> of parsers for Unicode-based language, together with code Stephane> examples. So far, we received mostly "It should work" Stephane> reports :-) >> Was it simply the "case-insensitive" nature of things that threw >> a wrench in things? Stephane> Cosmogol is case-sensitive. So, we don't have to worry about f vs the 6 different f's that can be used to write Patrik Falstrom's nane. - -- ] Bear: "Me, I'm just the shape of a bear." | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@xelerance.com http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[ ] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys iQEVAwUBRgEIpICLcPvd0N1lAQJCxQf9HfHZP15CXH//bNBMeccLZXC5eaaKFN7Q 01B8dvd57O9AFTHbc6mzh5kOJu/iR9tV5QPNV3G6ilOk/XmSGwzhxJP2PlMMbHYF Ymz6vYqiJESWbPSxRdzP+5vVxpVvN/3hpMau/UoHZ7ONuDirPFJ4gbfwGE16/H0H pbDHCT1Tbb1SKwwxzcGNgGQC7DrQNpnwu96M+25w0rkQQNtkc3d2ZnYfvdZFaqOU aS393kx3XeAUriSbISB8h93mJUm7CZLkY1uUDMrWBsXMeyJImUATTL/A4exd6elQ m10Bhu3VnGKz8H8C9hYoFLMkdlV2W3OpEq8YYkcThzdh2OC5Vv7Mrw== =cGb1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Cosmogol mailing list Cosmogol@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cosmogol
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- Re: Require guidance on Unicode in IETF formats Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: Require guidance on Unicode in IETF formats Clive D.W. Feather
- Re: Require guidance on Unicode in IETF formats Michael Richardson
- Re: Require guidance on Unicode in IETF formats Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: Require guidance on Unicode in IETF formats Michael Richardson