Re: [Covidimpacts-workshop] [IAB] I-D Action: draft-iab-covid19-workshop-02.txt

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Hiya,

On 05/05/2021 20:19, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote:
> Hi Stephen, hi all,
> 
> We submitted another version with some editorial adjustments in then conclusion.

LGTM, thanks.

> 
> The IAB also approved publication!

Good stuff,
S.


> Mirja
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5. May 2021, at 14:36, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hiya,
>>
>> On 05/05/2021 11:26, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> We have published a new version which mainly contains edits and
>>> addition from Kirsty on the security discussion (Thanks!).
>>> As we have no outstanding issue or comments, this version should be
>>> ready for publication!
>>> Again thanks to everybody who contributed to the report but also to
>>> the discussion at the workshop!
>>
>> I just had a look at the diff, and it's all fine for me
>> except for one change that I think needs a tweak:
>>
>> The conclusions section now says:
>>
>> " Improve observability to better understand the health of
>> the Internet..."
>>
>> I think that could be misinterpreted to mean that one
>> conclusion of the w/s was that we should support ways to
>> break crypto, which wasn't even suggested IIRC.
>>
>> I reckon the earlier text was better as it just said we
>> wanted a "Better understanding of the health of the
>> Internet..."
>>
>> So, I'd argue to revert that one change. (I'm not arguing
>> that better observability isn't needed, but only that it's
>> a subtle issue and liable to be misinterpreted with the
>> current wording - there is significant controversy after
>> all about how one might "improve" things, and about what
>> might be "better" in this space.)
>>
>> I'd be fine if that were fixed at auth-48 or whenever.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> S.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Mirja
>>> P.S.: We plan to close the workshop list after publication of the
>>> report. However, follow-up discussions can of course also happen on
>>> architecture-discuss@iab.org !
>>>> On 5. May 2021, at 12:22, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>>> directories. This draft is a work item of the Internet Architecture
>>>> Board IETF of the IETF.
>>>> Title           : Report from the IAB COVID-19 Network Impacts
>>>> Workshop 2020 Authors         : Jari Arkko Stephen Farrell Mirja
>>>> Kühlewind Colin Perkins Filename        :
>>>> draft-iab-covid19-workshop-02.txt Pages           : 24 Date
>>>> : 2021-05-05
>>>> Abstract: The COVID-19 pandemic caused changes in Internet user
>>>> behavior, particularly during the introduction of the initial
>>>> quarantine and work-from-home arrangements.  These behavior changes
>>>> drove changes in Internet traffic.
>>>> The Internet Architecture Board (IAB) held a workshop to discuss network impacts of the pandemic on November 9-13, 2020.  The
>>>> workshop was held to convene interested researchers, network
>>>> operators, network management experts, and Internet technologists
>>>> to share their experiences.  The meeting was held online given the
>>>> on-going travel and contact restrictions at that time.
>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-covid19-workshop/
>>>> There is also an HTML version available at: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-iab-covid19-workshop-02.html
>>>> A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-iab-covid19-workshop-02
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