[cso] New list and wiki/blog? Re: Mailing List Sunset
Greg Bernstein <gregb@grotto-networking.com> Wed, 30 November 2011 17:00 UTC
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Subject: [cso] New list and wiki/blog? Re: Mailing List Sunset
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Hi folks, I've looked into some options for continued interaction if this list and accompanying Wiki are shut down. These include: (a) A Yahoo! Group. --> Pros: list distribution and archiving, web page and file posting; Cons: advertising, limited customization (b) A Google Group --> Pros: list distribution and archiving; Cons: no web page or file posting (c) A WordPress site based at cccso.net (where we hosted the Korea workshop info) --> Pros: web page, wiki/blog, file posting, customization; Cons: no list processing (d) A MediaWiki site based at cccso.net --> Pros: web page, wiki/blog, file posting, customization; Cons: no list processing. (e) Other? I use Drupal for my own site but not sure we need this much customization. Right now the only customization I think would be helpful for wiki or blog is good web mathematics support. I particularly like MathJax <http://www.mathjax.org/>as it understands LaTex and MathMML, permits easy copy and paste, and has wide browser support and is endorsed by a ton of technical societies. In addition (or most importantly) I got it to work with some sample WordPress and MediaWiki deployments (http://cccso.net/mw/index.php/Greg%27s_Page and http://cccso.net/wp/ ). Two key area for a CSO wiki/blog would be on problem formulations and references (both categorized). For example Richard Yang's recent post gives a lot of good references and a bunch of those are available free from Tim Roughgarden's web page (http://theory.stanford.edu/~tim/ <http://theory.stanford.edu/%7Etim/>). With the UT Dallas and BUPT presentations we saw two different problem formulations which would be nice to share on a Wiki. It looks like we have a very good and diverse set of folks interested in this area, let me know preferences for the above Wiki/blog/list choices. I'm kind of leaning towards "Google groups" for the list and a separate advertising free wiki/blog type site. Cheers Greg B. On 11/25/2011 1:06 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > > Where will people take the work that has been discussed here? This is > not directed at you, Ron, but at the contributors. > > On Nov 25, 2011 12:26 PM, "Ronald Bonica" <rbonica@juniper.net > <mailto:rbonica@juniper.net>> wrote: > > Folks, > > It appears that this work has not gained traction within the IETF. > Therefore, this list will be shut down on Friday, December 16. > Please feel free to use the list until then to summarize your work > and announce future plans. > > -------------------------- > Ron Bonica > vcard: www.bonica.org/ron/ronbonica.vcf > <http://www.bonica.org/ron/ronbonica.vcf> > > _______________________________________________ > cso mailing list > cso@ietf.org <mailto:cso@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cso > > > > _______________________________________________ > cso mailing list > cso@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cso -- =================================================== Dr Greg Bernstein, Grotto Networking (510) 573-2237
- [cso] Mailing List Sunset Ronald Bonica
- Re: [cso] Mailing List Sunset Scott Brim
- Re: [cso] Mailing List Sunset Leeyoung
- Re: [cso] Mailing List Sunset Robert Raszuk
- Re: [cso] Mailing List Sunset Ronald Bonica
- Re: [cso] Mailing List Sunset Lars Eggert
- Re: [cso] Mailing List Sunset Leeyoung
- Re: [cso] Mailing List Sunset Greg Bernstein
- [cso] New list and wiki/blog? Re: Mailing List Su… Greg Bernstein
- Re: [cso] New list and wiki/blog? Re: Mailing Lis… Leeyoung
- [cso] New mailing list/group Re: New list and wik… Greg Bernstein