Re: [cso] New list and wiki/blog? Re: Mailing List Sunset

Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com> Wed, 30 November 2011 18:37 UTC

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Hi Greg,

Google group looks great! I also like Media Wiki for Web Site for CSO.

Thanks a lot.

Young

From: cso-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:cso-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Greg Bernstein
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:01 AM
To: cso@ietf.org
Subject: [cso] New list and wiki/blog? Re: Mailing List Sunset

Hi folks, I've looked into some options for continued interaction if this list and accompanying Wiki are shut down.
These include:
(a) A Yahoo! Group. --> Pros: list distribution and archiving, web page and file posting; Cons: advertising, limited customization
(b) A Google Group --> Pros: list distribution and archiving;  Cons: no web page or file posting
(c) A WordPress site based at cccso.net (where we hosted the Korea workshop info) --> Pros: web page, wiki/blog, file posting, customization; Cons: no list processing
(d) A MediaWiki site based at cccso.net --> Pros: web page, wiki/blog, file posting, customization; Cons: no list processing.
(e) Other? I use Drupal for my own site but not sure we need this much customization.

Right now the only customization I think would be helpful for wiki or blog is good web mathematics support. I particularly like MathJax <http://www.mathjax.org/> as it understands LaTex and MathMML, permits easy copy and paste, and has wide browser support and is endorsed by a ton of technical societies. In addition (or most importantly) I got it to work with some sample WordPress and MediaWiki deployments (http://cccso.net/mw/index.php/Greg%27s_Page and http://cccso.net/wp/ ).

Two key area for a CSO wiki/blog would be on problem formulations and references (both categorized). For example Richard Yang's recent post gives a lot of good references and a bunch of those are available free from Tim Roughgarden's web page (http://theory.stanford.edu/~tim/<http://theory.stanford.edu/%7Etim/>)/>).  With the UT Dallas and BUPT presentations we saw two different problem formulations which would be nice to share on a Wiki.

It looks like we have a very good and diverse set of folks interested in this area, let me know preferences for the above Wiki/blog/list choices.  I'm kind of leaning towards "Google groups" for the list and a separate advertising free wiki/blog type site.

Cheers

Greg B.


On 11/25/2011 1:06 PM, Scott Brim wrote:

Where will people take the work that has been discussed here? This is not directed at you, Ron, but at the contributors.
On Nov 25, 2011 12:26 PM, "Ronald Bonica" <rbonica@juniper.net<mailto:rbonica@juniper.net>> wrote:
Folks,

It appears that this work has not gained traction within the IETF. Therefore, this list will be shut down on Friday, December 16. Please feel free to use the list until then to summarize your work and announce future plans.

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