Re: [cso] Mailing List Sunset

Robert,

I cannot push this work out of the IETF because it is not in the IETF. There is no WG, no planned BoF, not even a proposed BoF. If you are interested in bringing this work into the IETF, propose a BoF.

Alternatively, if you are interested in forming an IRTF RG, please coordinate with Lars and the IRSG.

                                               Ron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Raszuk [mailto:robert@raszuk.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 2:32 PM
> To: Leeyoung; Ronald Bonica
> Cc: Scott Brim; cso@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [cso] Mailing List Sunset
> 
> Hi Leeyoung,
> 
> Many thx !
> 
> Hi Ron,
> 
> Great success of pushing very useful work out of IETF/IRTF doors.
> 
> Only because perhaps there was no charter .. not even section of IRTF
> web page one should not shut down this group.
> 
> However the charter could be as simple as copy and paste a section from
> one of the excellent drafts this wg produced:
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-lee-cross-stratum-optimization-
> datacenter-00.txt
> 
>     The IETF ALTO WG has focused on overlay optimization among peers by
>     utilizing information about topological proximity and appropriate
>     geographical locations of the underlay networks. With this method,
>     the optimization generally occurs in selecting peer location which
>     will help reduce IP traffic unnecessarily traversing IP service
>     providers. Current scope of this work does not address general
>     problems this document has been discussing such as the selection of
>     application servers based on resource availability and usage of the
>     underlying networks.
> 
> Also IMHO I think the name of this group was poorly chosen. For vast
> majority of non native English speakers the name of the group was
> highly
> cryptic .. first guess was that this is all about stratum 0 to stratum
> 3
> clocking optimization .... booooooring.
> 
> While the reality turns out to be something really different. That this
> is about cross network layer application proximity services what is one
> of the hottest topics/optimization in networking today.
> 
> The actual work in this group is very needed and should be continued
> within the IETF/IRTF.
> 
> I suggest to rename the group/gathering/bof to something much more
> meaningful, enter it's charter on IRTF page as "tent wg" and allow
> folks
> interested to share drafts, research and continue discuss on the
> mailing
> list. Even if the group would not get the room in Paris as Lars said
> during last meeting that is still ok.
> 
> Best regards,
> R.
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are working on moving the CSO mailing list to alternative site at
> this moment. We will shortly announce the new site and the future
> plans.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Young
> >
> > From: cso-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:cso-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Scott Brim
> > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 3:07 PM
> > To: Ronald Bonica
> > Cc: cso@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [cso] Mailing List Sunset
> >
> >
> > Where will people take the work that has been discussed here? This is
> not directed at you, Ron, but at the contributors.
> > On Nov 25, 2011 12:26 PM, "Ronald
> Bonica"<rbonica@juniper.net<mailto:rbonica@juniper.net>>  wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > It appears that this work has not gained traction within the IETF.
> Therefore, this list will be shut down on Friday, December 16. Please
> feel free to use the list until then to summarize your work and
> announce future plans.
> >
> > --------------------------
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