Re: [Curdle] Adoption of rc4-die-die-die document

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Thu, 17 August 2017 16:35 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:34:31 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Curdle] Adoption of rc4-die-die-die document
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Kathleen and I are discussing how best to proceed and will get back to you
shortly.

Best,
-Ekr


On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:

> ➢ That said, I believe RC4 should be condemned for all of the IETF. So,
> ➢ who do we need to ask for the ability to speak for all of the IETF about
> ➢ the insecurity of RC4?
>
> It would start with our AD, Eric.  Ping Eric ☺
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