Re: [Curdle] Time to Review IANA SSH Registries Policies?

Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> Thu, 04 February 2021 23:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Curdle] Time to Review IANA SSH Registries Policies?
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Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> writes:

>Restrictive registration requirements contradict the principle of
>'permissionless innovation'. If the IETF is the place you go to get
>permission to innovate, we are doing it wrong.

+1.  To give a real-world experience of "expert review", when I tried to go
through the process on $unnamed-wg there was an experts group that you
couldn't contact who had a non-public mailing list where decisions were made
in secret, but that didn't matter since there was no way to contact them.
Eventually it got sorted out by one or two people involved in the process
going out of their way to help, but when done as it should have been the
process was more reminiscent of Kafka than the IETF.

Peter.