Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn
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From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com>
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As below: Keith > -----Original Message----- > From: cuss [mailto:cuss-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Atle Monrad > Sent: 22 November 2013 19:04 > To: Gurbani, Vijay K (Vijay); cuss@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn > > G'day > > I have reviewed the draft again and have a couple of nits. > > 1. > Abstract > > The motivation and use cases for interworking and > transporting ITU-T > DSS1 User-user information element data in SIP are described in the > "Problem Statement and Requirements for Transporting User to User > Call Control Information in SIP" document. As networks move to SIP > it is important that applications requiring this data can > continue to > function in SIP networks as well as the ability to interwork with > this ISDN service for end-to- end transparency. > > Remove space: this ISDN service for end-to-end transparency. > Done - seems to be something xml2rfc does that I was not expecting - hopefully changed the source so it does not happen. > 2. > 3.2. Impacts of the ISDN service on SIP operation > > The ISDN service has the following impacts that need to be > understood > within the SIP environment. > > Call transfer ISDN call transfer cancels all user-to-user > supplementary services. In the ISDN, if user-to-user data is > required after call transfer, then UUS3 has to be renegotiated, > which is not provided by this SIP extension. The impact of this > restriction on the SIP environment is that UUI header fields > cannot be exchanged in transactions clearing down the SIP dialog > after call transfer has occurred. > > Conference ISDN conferencing allows the user to still > exchange user- > to-user data after the conference is created. As far as UUS1 is > concerned, it is not permitted. > > The ISDN three-party supplementary service is similar > in many ways > to conferencing, but is signalled using a different mechanism. > This means that on clearing, the controller using UUS1 implicit > does have the choice of sending data to either or both remote > users. Because SIP conferencing cannot completely emulate the > ISDN three-party supplementary service at the served user, UUS1 > implicit is not possible. > > Diversion When ISDN diversion occurs, any UUS1 > user-to-user data is > sent to the forwarded-to-user (assuming that the call meets > requirements for providing the service - this is impacted by the > explicit service only). If the type of diversion is > such that the > call is also delivered to the forwarding user, they will also > receive any UUS1 user-to-user data. > > Would it make sense to add some NLs and/or :s after the three > "ISDN SSs" to split the text and improve readability?? > > e.g. like > Call transfer: > ISDN call transfer cancels all user-to-user > supplementary services. In the ISDN, if user-to-user data is > required after call transfer, then UUS3 has to be renegotiated, > which is not provided by this SIP extension. The impact of this > restriction on the SIP environment is that UUI header fields > cannot be exchanged in transactions clearing down the SIP dialog > after call transfer has occurred. > Or > Call transfer: ISDN call transfer cancels all user-to-user > supplementary services. In the ISDN, if user-to-user data is > required after call transfer, then UUS3 has to be renegotiated, > which is not provided by this SIP extension. The impact of this > restriction on the SIP environment is that UUI header fields > cannot be exchanged in transactions clearing down the SIP dialog > after call transfer has occurred. > I've added the colon. New lines is beyond my xml2rfc capabilities. > ---- > I hope the draft can progress soon > > Cheers > /atle > > ________________________________ > > > Atle Monrad > 3GPP CT Chairman > > Group Function Technology - Standardization and Technical > Regulation Ericsson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cuss-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:cuss-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Vijay K. Gurbani > Sent: 13. november 2013 20:11 > To: cuss@ietf.org > Subject: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn > > Folks: Enrico and I will like to announce a WGLC for the ISDN > draft [1]. > > The WGLC will run from Wed, Nov 13 2013 to Fri, Nov 29 2013. > > We will appreciate your comments on the draft, posted to the > list. All comments are appreciated, even if it is a simple > one-liner saying that you believe the draft is ready, or > conversely, that it is not ready (and why). > > As you review the draft, as part of your WGLC review, please > identify any issues that may exist in regard to compatibility > with draft-ietf-cuss-uui (the mechanism draft). > > Thank you. > > [1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn/ > > Vijay K. Gurbani and Enrico Marocco > _______________________________________________ > cuss mailing list > cuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cuss > _______________________________________________ > cuss mailing list > cuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cuss >
- [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn Atle Monrad
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn celine.serrutvalette
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn R.Jesske
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn celine.serrutvalette
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn celine.serrutvalette
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn Atle Monrad
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn celine.serrutvalette
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn Atle Monrad
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn R.Jesske
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn celine.serrutvalette
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn celine.serrutvalette
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn Atle Monrad
- Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn DRAGE, Keith (Keith)