Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn
Atle Monrad <atle.monrad@ericsson.com> Fri, 22 November 2013 19:04 UTC
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From: Atle Monrad <atle.monrad@ericsson.com>
To: "Vijay K. Gurbani" <vkg@bell-labs.com>, "cuss@ietf.org" <cuss@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn
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G'day
I have reviewed the draft again and have a couple of nits.
1.
Abstract
The motivation and use cases for interworking and transporting ITU-T
DSS1 User-user information element data in SIP are described in the
"Problem Statement and Requirements for Transporting User to User
Call Control Information in SIP" document. As networks move to SIP
it is important that applications requiring this data can continue to
function in SIP networks as well as the ability to interwork with
this ISDN service for end-to- end transparency.
Remove space: this ISDN service for end-to-end transparency.
2.
3.2. Impacts of the ISDN service on SIP operation
The ISDN service has the following impacts that need to be understood
within the SIP environment.
Call transfer ISDN call transfer cancels all user-to-user
supplementary services. In the ISDN, if user-to-user data is
required after call transfer, then UUS3 has to be renegotiated,
which is not provided by this SIP extension. The impact of this
restriction on the SIP environment is that UUI header fields
cannot be exchanged in transactions clearing down the SIP dialog
after call transfer has occurred.
Conference ISDN conferencing allows the user to still exchange user-
to-user data after the conference is created. As far as UUS1 is
concerned, it is not permitted.
The ISDN three-party supplementary service is similar in many ways
to conferencing, but is signalled using a different mechanism.
This means that on clearing, the controller using UUS1 implicit
does have the choice of sending data to either or both remote
users. Because SIP conferencing cannot completely emulate the
ISDN three-party supplementary service at the served user, UUS1
implicit is not possible.
Diversion When ISDN diversion occurs, any UUS1 user-to-user data is
sent to the forwarded-to-user (assuming that the call meets
requirements for providing the service - this is impacted by the
explicit service only). If the type of diversion is such that the
call is also delivered to the forwarding user, they will also
receive any UUS1 user-to-user data.
Would it make sense to add some NLs and/or :s after the three "ISDN SSs" to split the text and improve readability??
e.g. like
Call transfer:
ISDN call transfer cancels all user-to-user
supplementary services. In the ISDN, if user-to-user data is
required after call transfer, then UUS3 has to be renegotiated,
which is not provided by this SIP extension. The impact of this
restriction on the SIP environment is that UUI header fields
cannot be exchanged in transactions clearing down the SIP dialog
after call transfer has occurred.
Or
Call transfer: ISDN call transfer cancels all user-to-user
supplementary services. In the ISDN, if user-to-user data is
required after call transfer, then UUS3 has to be renegotiated,
which is not provided by this SIP extension. The impact of this
restriction on the SIP environment is that UUI header fields
cannot be exchanged in transactions clearing down the SIP dialog
after call transfer has occurred.
----
I hope the draft can progress soon
Cheers
/atle
________________________________
Atle Monrad
3GPP CT Chairman
Group Function Technology - Standardization and Technical Regulation
Ericsson
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Subject: [cuss] WGLC for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn
Folks: Enrico and I will like to announce a WGLC for the ISDN draft [1].
The WGLC will run from Wed, Nov 13 2013 to Fri, Nov 29 2013.
We will appreciate your comments on the draft, posted to the list. All comments are appreciated, even if it is a simple one-liner saying that you believe the draft is ready, or conversely, that it is not ready (and why).
As you review the draft, as part of your WGLC review, please identify any issues that may exist in regard to compatibility with draft-ietf-cuss-uui (the mechanism draft).
Thank you.
[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-isdn/
Vijay K. Gurbani and Enrico Marocco
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