Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" guideline for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui
Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Fri, 04 April 2014 19:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" guideline for draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui
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On 4/4/14 12:46 PM, Alan Johnston wrote: > Paul, > > I know you've explained this before. But you haven't explained how the > requirements in Section 5. Guidelines for UUI Packages can be enforced > if there isn't any review. Can you elaborate on this? With no review these couldn't be enforced. They could still remain as guidelines. Thanks, Paul > - Alan - > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu > <mailto:pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>> wrote: > > Interesting to see this come back. > > My original opinion was (and still is) that for these to be useful, > it must be possible for using enterprises to assign new values for > each distinct deployment of an application. IMO even FCFS might be > too high a bar for this. > > E.g., if I create a particular VXML application that captures some > data and communicates it to a call center agent application via UUI, > then the format of that data is likely to be unique. > > Lowering the bar below FCFS would require a naming scheme that > guarantees uniqueness without registration. > > Thanks, > Paul > > On 4/3/14 6:17 PM, Vijay K. Gurbani wrote: > > All: The IESG has sent draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui to the WG to > ratify the > "Standards Action" guideline for defining UUI packages and > registering > new IANA elements for the parameter tables for purpose, encoding and > content. > > The draft authors note that the original concern when the work > was coming out of Dispatch was that the UUI not become a "wildcard" > header to be used for a wide variety of purposes. Hence the > direction > toward requiring a standards track RFC. However, a lesser standard > such as "Specification Required" might suffice and offer more > flexibility for additional use cases, while not opening up the > process > totally as would be the case for "First Come First Serve." > > The IESG will like to revisit this decision to confirm that the WG > decisions remains "Standards Action". > > To that end, Enrico and I will like to open up a 2-week period > to ratify > this decision to remain at "Standards Action" or to move to > something > other designation. > > The 2-week period ends on close of business (US Central Time) > April 17, > 2014. Please express an opinion; if you are for keeping status quo, > please send a one-liner to the cuss WG mailing list. If you are > of the > opinion that we should relax the burden, please state so and a short > reason on why we should do so. > > Thank you all. > > - vijay > > > _________________________________________________ > cuss mailing list > cuss@ietf.org <mailto:cuss@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/__listinfo/cuss > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cuss> > >
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" guideli… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… Alan Johnston
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… Alan Johnston
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… Alan Johnston
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [cuss] Ratification of "Standards Action" gui… Alissa Cooper