Re: [dane] Network errors ARE attacks - on the end-to-end-principle

[SM <[e-mail]>]

Hi Henry,
At 04:55 16-05-2012, Henry Story wrote:
>The point of John Gilmore's inspirational mail is that end-to-end is 
>the aim of
>the architecture of the internet. It is because it was architected for end to
>end communication that it has had such positive effects. The reasons 
>these working

That is how things were.  How things are is a matter of religion.

>groups exist is to remove the technical reasons for this not always 
>being possible, such
>as by for example working on ipv6.  When the technical reasons have 
>been moved out of the
>way the network effects and political pressure can be built up to 
>solve the deployment
>problems. Luckily the network effect works in favour of those who 
>work for freedom.

Sometimes technical reasons are used as a reason for not doing a 
non-technical change.  The technical folks declare an issue as out of 
scope while the non-technical folks assume that the technical folks 
have considered and addressed the issue.  The message at 
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dane/current/msg05009.html 
mentioned some awkward truths.  It could be said that there are good 
reasons for a person not to take a stance by side-stepping the issue(s).

Regards,
-sm