Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ One week WGLC ]
Viktor Dukhovni <viktor1dane@dukhovni.org> Sun, 08 December 2013 23:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ One week WGLC ]
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On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 06:34:40PM -0800, John Gilmore wrote: > > Any (strong) objections? > > Yes, I object. If there is no consensus on acronyms, we should stick > with what is in the current RFC 6698, rather than forwarding an > acronym proposal for adoption as a standard, even though we can't > agree on what it should say. It's unnecessary, which probably > explains the paucity of responses, and divisive among those who did > respond. It should be abandoned. Perhaps the author is willing to take a look at the history of the thread, and propose one final set of names for the 4 usages that makes most sense to him. We can then object or concur with those without (yet again) proposing changes. I am not fundamentally opposed to human-readable TLSA RRs: ; _25._tcp.mx.example.com. IN TLSA 3 1 2 _25._tcp.mx.example.com. IN TLSA TRUSTED-LEAF PUBLIC-KEY SHA2-512 {blob}[ ; _25._tcp.mx.example.com. IN TLSA 2 0 2 _25._tcp.mx.example.com. IN TLSA TRUSTED-CA CERTIFICATE SHA2-512 {blob} ; _25._tcp.mx.example.com. IN TLSA 1 0 1 _25._tcp.mx.example.com. IN TLSA VALID-LEAF PUBLIC-KEY SHA2-256 {blob} ; _25._tcp.mx.example.com. IN TLSA 0 1 0 _25._tcp.mx.example.com. IN TLSA VALID-CA PUBLIC-KEY VALUE {blob} As much possible, the acronyms should avoid jargon unfamiliar to their intended audience and in a full TLSA record should ideally read like a complete sentence, as above. The dichotomy between "TRUSTED" (sufficient on its own) and "VALID" (not sufficient without external trust) is I think one reasonable way to communicate the usage values. Anyway, I think it is up to the author to propose a final revision, or as John suggests, give up. -- Viktor.
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question… [ O… Bry8 Star
- [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question… [ One w… Warren Kumari
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question… [ O… James Cloos
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Dickson, Brian
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… John Gilmore
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Warren Kumari
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… John Gilmore
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Jakob Schlyter
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… James Cloos
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Jakob Schlyter
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Ben Laurie
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Stephen Kent
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Ben Laurie
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Stephen Kent
- Re: [dane] DANE, constrains and CT and similar.... Warren Kumari
- [dane] OpenSSL DANE support... Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Ben Laurie
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- Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ O… Wes Hardaker