Re: [dane] Please help to remediate broken DNSSEC hosting

"Marco Davids (SIDN)" <marco.davids@sidn.nl> Thu, 20 November 2014 08:29 UTC

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Hi,

At SIDN (registry for .nl) we are aware of these problems and we are in
touch with the registrars involved.

In particular TransIP is a bit of a challenge, because they run their
own DNS-software and feel no rush to fix this issue. But rest assured
that we will keep on trying to have them improve things.

--
Marco



On 20/11/14 08:34, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 06:29:42AM +0000, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
> 
>> A number of large DNS hosting providers have enabled DNSSEC support,
>> but are using nameserver software that is not compatible with the
>> specification with respect to authenticated denial of existence.
> 
> Note, by far the bulk of the problem is with transip. From their
> website:
> 
>     https://www.transip.co.uk/domain-name/transdns/
> 
>     DNSSEC
> 
>     TransDNS is the foundation of our DNSSEC implementation, a DNS
>     protocol security extension. Signing more than 500.000 domain
>     names with DNSSEC was a challenge we gladly accepted. Because
>     of TransDNS we were one of the first domain providers in The
>     Netherlands that signed all our domain names. We are now the
>     largest DNSSEC provider in the world. We could not have done
>     this with third-party solutions. That is the reason why we
>     develop everything in-house.
> 
> Perhaps they have more problems that show up in interop tests
> because they indeed signed so many more domains that anyone else.
> In any case, they would be a good place to start remediation.
> 
> If anyone has contacts there and can reach out that would be great.
>