Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft
Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Thu, 06 August 2015 17:07 UTC
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From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
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Subject: Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft
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... and we have just called consensus on this topic - see the email with the subject "Consensus on the Hash vs Base32 discussion." This has been a long and involved discussion, and we thank everyone for hanging in there. W On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Hosnieh Rafiee <hosnieh.rafiee@huawei.com> wrote: > Viktor, > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dane [mailto:dane-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Viktor Dukhovni >> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:47 PM >> To: dane@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft >> >> On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 04:54:24AM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: >> >> > I really do believe that the hashing is not an affective security >> > meassure. >> >> Agreed. Wishful thinking does not make it true. Just because we'd >> like to sprinkle crypto pixie dust to make magic happen, does not mean >> it will happen. >> >> Hashes may sound more secure, but they're not really more secure, no >> matter how much we'd like them to be. > > Of course, no one expects to see a miracle from a hash function. But again this is only making it a bit harder, even you say 1% but this is quite different than a plain text. > > Best, > Hosnieh > > _______________________________________________ > dane mailing list > dane@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dane -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Paul Wouters
- [dane] Is running a DANE nameserver for a TLD as … Coyo
- Re: [dane] Is running a DANE nameserver for a TLD… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] Is running a DANE nameserver for a TLD… Coyo
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Werner Koch
- Re: [dane] Is running a DANE nameserver for a TLD… Wiley, Glen
- Re: [dane] Is running a DANE nameserver for a TLD… Nico Williams
- Re: [dane] The DANE draft Simon Josefsson
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Patrick Ben Koetter
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Carsten Strotmann
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Patrik Löhr
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Jiankang Yao
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Vincent Breitmoser
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Carsten Strotmann
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Paul Wouters
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Hosnieh Rafiee
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Warren Kumari
- Re: [dane] [openpgp] The DANE draft Daniel Kahn Gillmor