Re: [dane] Deployment focus? Re: IETF 85 - meet or not to meet?

[Dan York <[e-mail]>]

On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:27 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:

> More seriously though, this is yet another chicken-and-egg problem…

Agreed.

> In this particular case I think that the easiest / fastest way to get better deployment is to convince the browser manufactures to include support for DANE -- this will incentivize[0] folk to deploy records…

Indeed, but as you yourself noted in an earlier thread:

>> Something that would be very helpful for getting this deployed / implemented in browsers is number of folk (and more importantly, organizations) stating that they are planning on / would do DANE if the browsers supported it natively. Of course, even more helpful would be folk actually publishing TLSA records :-P
>> 
>> The browser vendors all have limited cycles, and many many things to implement -- showing that this is something that users (and not just security weenie users) want and plan to use helps to prioritize developer time. 


So the best way to get the attention of the browser manufacturers is to get *other* people talking about DANE and requesting DANE from the browser manufacturers.  Which speaks to the need for a broader outreach to people who might be consumers/users of the DANE protocol.

> [0]: Whoohoo, "incentivize" !

Ah, the joys of the English language "evolving"... :-)

Dan

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