Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ One week WGLC ]

Ben Laurie <benl@google.com> Wed, 11 December 2013 12:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dane] On the PKIX-TA / PKIX-CA question? [ One week WGLC ]
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On 10 December 2013 16:23, Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> wrote:
> Ben,
>
> Thanks for the clarification. I disagree with the relative merit of the
> two approaches, but I don't dispute your observations.

I'm not particularly interested in which is more defective: they both
need fixing.