Re: [dane] Behavior in the face of no answer?

Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Fri, 04 May 2012 20:10 UTC

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On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 12:48:15PM -0700, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> 
> Now I'm really confused. What do you think the draft says about "no response"

Nothing, at the moment.  You've made this point quite clear.  I
thought that's what we were discussing.

The draft currently _does_ have something to say about no _answer_
-- i.e. a NODATA DNS response.  What that means is that there isn't a
TLSA RR at that owner name, so you should use something else (probably
traditional TLS processing).  

Best,

a

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Andrew Sullivan
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