Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-protocol-19
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Thu, 03 May 2012 21:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of
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On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 02:26:37PM -0700, SM wrote: > Hi Peter, > Section 3 of draft-ietf-dane-protocol-20 uses "domain name". The > reference is likely RFC 1035. The problem with DANE is that it > touches application layer protocols by using host names (see the > examples). RFC 1123 is applicable then. If you want to support > internationalization, you then end up using RFC 5890. Should the > question about whether STD 13 supports IDN, everyone knows what the > answer will be. :-) I don't think that the examples (I presume you mean "in that section", since the examples in Appx C aren't DNS names) are normative, and as nearly as I can tell nothing about section 3 is restricted to the host name syntax. It's true that if you want to use IDNA with DANE then you have to do it using A-labels. I don't really get why any of that needs to go into the protocol document, though. This is a document about how you do stuff in the DNS, and that means you have to do it in a DNS-y way. No? A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
- [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-protocol… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-protocol… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Warren Kumari
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Paul Wouters
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… James Cloos
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… John Gilmore
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… John Gilmore
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… SM
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… James Cloos
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… S Moonesamy
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Warren Kumari
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Matt Miller
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… James Cloos
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… James Cloos
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… James Cloos
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… James Cloos
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Matt Miller
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- [dane] Documenting DANE for XMPP (WAS: [apps-disc… Matt Miller
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Dave Cridland
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] Documenting DANE for XMPP (WAS: [apps-… Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] [xmpp] Documenting DANE for XMPP (WAS:… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… James Cloos
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Scott Schmit
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Scott Schmit
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Jakob Schlyter
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-prot… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Warren Kumari
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Mark Andrews
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] Ned Freed
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] Ned Freed
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Mark Andrews
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] Ned Freed
- [dane] Terminology 'whitespace' (Was: AppsDir rev… Ondřej Surý
- [dane] Client-defined port -> particular port (wa… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ondřej Surý
- [dane] MX and DANE (Was: AppsDir review of draft-… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dane] MX and DANE (Was: AppsDir review of dr… Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dane] MX and DANE (Was: AppsDir review of dr… Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] MX and DANE (Was: AppsDir review of dr… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dane] Terminology 'whitespace' (Was: AppsDir… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… SM
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… SM
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] Terminology 'whitespace' (Was: AppsDir… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dane] MX and DANE (Was: AppsDir review of dr… Mark Andrews
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of SM
- Re: [dane] MX and DANE (Was: AppsDir review of Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Martin Rex
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Tony Finch
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dane] [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of Ondřej Surý