Re: [dane] Requests for agenda time...

Dan York <york@isoc.org> Wed, 08 October 2014 14:19 UTC

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From: Dan York <york@isoc.org>
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Warren,

On Oct 7, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net<mailto:warren@kumari.net>> wrote:

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Jakob Schlyter <jakob@kirei.se<mailto:jakob@kirei.se>> wrote:
On 7 okt 2014, at 14:25, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net<mailto:warren@kumari.net>> wrote:

A reminder to please send us your requests for agenda time for the upcoming meeting.

Hey everyone, see how easy that was?

Per the email I sent to the list earlier, I'll go ahead and request some time at the end of the DANE WG session to discuss questions around how we can further the deployment of DANE and get more people using the documents we've created in this WG.  Questions such as (but not limited to):
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- what roadblocks are people running into with implementing DANE?  (outside of the broader issue of getting DNSSEC validation and signing more widely available)  are there lessons we can feed back into our process of developing DANE-related standards?

- are there more "Using DANE with <foo>" types of documents that we can or should create? (and who is willing to do so?)

- are there some good examples/case studies of DANE implementations that we could perhaps capture as informational RFCs?  (the Jabber community's implementation comes to mind)

- are there places where it would be helpful if there were reference implementations of DANE support?  For example, DANE for email got a boost when Viktor added it to postfix.  Are there other commonly-used open source projects where the addition of DANE support would help move deployment along?

- are there test tools that need to be developed? or existing ones that need to be better promoted?  are there interop tests we can arrange?
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I don't have this in the form of an I-D document because they are more open-ended questions for discussion. (But if you want me to throw it in a quick I-D for the purpose of having a link on the agenda, I can do so.)  I also don't feel a need to lead this discussion and would be glad to defer to you and/or Olafur if you would prefer to do so.

Dan

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