Re: [dane] List of incidents that DANE would have blocked?

Olafur Gudmundsson <ogud@ogud.com> Thu, 02 October 2014 06:03 UTC

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Bill, 
short answer. 

Dane is about placing high value information in the DNS, 
with out DNSSEC that is non-sensical. 

Yes we had this discussion a long time ago (most of second half of  2011), the deciding point was around November 2011. 
starting with this message: 
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dane/current/msg03748.html

and this one is a followup to gather consensus
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dane/current/msg03864.html

	Olafur


On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:37 PM, William Stouder-Studenmund <wrstuden@mac.com> wrote:

> I learned about DANE recently and was excitedly talking to some operations friends of mine about it. Some of them work in shops that aren’t using DNSSEC yet, and DANE’s requirement of it would trigger push-back from management. *I* think they should be doing DNSSEC, but I’m not management. Making a case for DANE means making a case for DNSSEC.
> 
> I get that DANE can detect a large class of MITM attacks. Saying that isn’t as convincing as handing over a list of, “DANE is designed to stop this, DANE would have stopped that one,” and so on.
> 
> If the answer is lurking in the list archives, feel free to just point me at a date and I’ll look at that too.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Bill
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