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Re: [Danish] Proposed WG Charter

Jacques Latour <Jacques.Latour@cira.ca> Thu, 24 June 2021 20:07 UTC

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From: Jacques Latour <Jacques.Latour@cira.ca>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>, "danish@ietf.org" <danish@ietf.org>
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Hi,



"In response to the challenges related to ambiguity between client identities issued by different CAs, application owners frequently choose to onboard IoT devices to a single private CA specific to that vertical. This creates a silo effect where different parts of large deployment can not communicate. For instance the heating/cooling system of a building wishing to turn lights off to reduce room temperatures can not authenticate to the lighting control system.



This does not resonate with me yet " This creates a silo effect where different parts of large deployment can not communicate. " I think the problem is that each silo cannot authenticate each other in trusted manner,  if IoT device company A knows it's allow turn the light switch on IoT device company B when the sun sets, then there's no mechanism today to authenticate themselves with a unique identity?...   and there needs to be a control system somewhere that says IoT device A can control IoT device B, that controls system today also need to authenticate the IoT devices....



It's clearer in my head than on the email... ☹



Jack







> -----Original Message-----

> From: Danish <danish-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Michael Richardson

> Sent: June 21, 2021 10:00 PM

> To: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>; danish@ietf.org

> Subject: Re: [Danish] Proposed WG Charter

>

>

> So, the initial charter from June 12 is now at:

>

>   https://github.com/mcr/danish-<https://github.com/mcr/danish-bof/commit/6c9a50804d086679c06172f085915b9dad7970db>

> bof/commit/6c9a50804d086679c06172f085915b9dad7970db<https://github.com/mcr/danish-bof/commit/6c9a50804d086679c06172f085915b9dad7970db>

>

> My proposed revised charter is at:

>   https://github.com/mcr/danish-bof/pull/1/files?short_path=d22b3d6#diff-<https://github.com/mcr/danish-bof/pull/1/files?short_path=d22b3d6#diff-d22b3d6550c34594a6e2d6b2148ed17907c5d598b10f407b6fbecf07bf25ea97>

> d22b3d6550c34594a6e2d6b2148ed17907c5d598b10f407b6fbecf07bf25ea97<https://github.com/mcr/danish-bof/pull/1/files?short_path=d22b3d6#diff-d22b3d6550c34594a6e2d6b2148ed17907c5d598b10f407b6fbecf07bf25ea97>

>

> In all it's github annotated Markdown glory!

>

> These are my edits this evening based upon Roman's comments earlier today.

>

>   https://github.com/mcr/danish-bof/pull/2/files?short_path=d22b3d6#diff-<https://github.com/mcr/danish-bof/pull/2/files?short_path=d22b3d6#diff-d22b3d6550c34594a6e2d6b2148ed17907c5d598b10f407b6fbecf07bf25ea97>

> d22b3d6550c34594a6e2d6b2148ed17907c5d598b10f407b6fbecf07bf25ea97<https://github.com/mcr/danish-bof/pull/2/files?short_path=d22b3d6#diff-d22b3d6550c34594a6e2d6b2148ed17907c5d598b10f407b6fbecf07bf25ea97>

>

> I would appreciate github level comments on the comments, particularly from

> Roman.

>

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> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca<mailto:mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )

>            Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide

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