Re: [Dart] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dart-dscp-rtp-00.txt
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From: "Black, David" <david.black@emc.com>
To: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 19:34:27 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Dart] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dart-dscp-rtp-00.txt
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Ben, Thank you for reviewing this draft. > I concur with the editor's note to reorganize sections. Thank you - anyone else care to weigh in? > -- Section 4, Bullets 3 and 4: > > Should STP in bullet 4 be SCTP? Yes, I'd plead gasoline fumes ;-), but I actually missed this in rapid-fire editing to try to pick up everything from the productive Toronto dart meeting. > If yes, then doesn't this bullet more tightly > constrain things than bullet 3, to the point of making bullet 3 redundant? Or > am I misreading something? I think that's correct - bullets 3 and 4 should be combined. Thanks, --David > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Campbell [mailto:ben@nostrum.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 3:41 PM > To: Black, David > Cc: dart@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Dart] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dart-dscp-rtp-00.txt > > (as individual) > > -- General > > I concur with the editor's note to reorganize sections. On my first reading, I > was going to comment that I thought we needed more focus on what is really > likely to happen, e.g. with WebRTC. On a second reading, I think that's mostly > okay, but the consolidation of the RTP sections might make it more clear. > > -- Section 4, Bullets 3 and 4: > > Should STP in bullet 4 be SCTP? If yes, then doesn't this bullet more tightly > constrain things than bullet 3, to the point of making bullet 3 redundant? Or > am I misreading something? > > Thanks! > > Ben. > > On Jul 31, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Black, David <david.black@emc.com> wrote: > > > As promised, here's the -00 dart WG draft. I think I incorporated almost > > everything that was discussed in the meeting, but I've surely missed a > > few things - please comment (on list, or send me editorial changes > directly). > > > > I want to call attention to this Editor's Note on draft organization: > > > > [Editor's Note: Current section structure skips around topics > > somewhat. The editor suggests restructuring to put real-time/RTP > > material first (new section 2, consisting of current sections 2, 2.1 > > and 3), then DiffServ Background (new section 3, consisting of > > current sections 2.2, 2.3, 2.6 and 2.7, followed by discussion of > > interactions (new section 4, consisting of current sections 2.4, 2.5 > > and 5) and guidelines (current section 4, renumbered to new section > > 5).] > > > > If this change is made, I will submit a version that only contains the > > text rearrangement before making any other changes. The "game plan" that > > I've discussed w/Ben (WG chair) is to revise the draft over about the next > > week with the resulting version going to WG Last Call, so reading this > > draft sooner rather than later might be a good idea. > > > > Thanks, > > --David > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > >> internet-drafts@ietf.org > >> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:08 PM > >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >> Cc: dart@ietf.org > >> Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dart-dscp-rtp-00.txt > >> > >> > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >> directories. > >> This draft is a work item of the DiffServ Applied to Real-time Transports > >> Working Group of the IETF. > >> > >> Title : Differentiated Services (DiffServ) and Real-time > >> Communication > >> Authors : David Black > >> Paul Jones > >> Filename : draft-ietf-dart-dscp-rtp-00.txt > >> Pages : 23 > >> Date : 2014-07-31 > >> > >> Abstract: > >> This document describes the interaction between Differentiated > >> Services (DiffServ) network quality of service (QoS) functionality > >> and real-time network communication, including communication based on > >> the Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP). DiffServ is based on network > >> nodes applying different forwarding treatments to packets whose IP > >> headers are marked with different DiffServ Code Points (DSCPs). As a > >> result, use of different DSCPs within a single traffic stream may > >> cause transport protocol interactions (e.g., reordering). In > >> addition, DSCP markings may be changed or removed between the traffic > >> source and destination. This document covers the implications of > >> these DiffServ aspects for real-time network communication, including > >> RTCWEB. > >> > >> > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dart-dscp-rtp/ > >> > >> There's also a htmlized version available at: > >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dart-dscp-rtp-00 > >> > >> > >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > >> > >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> I-D-Announce mailing list > >> I-D-Announce@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > >> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > >> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dart mailing list > > Dart@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dart
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- Re: [Dart] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dart-dscp-rtp-0… Black, David
- Re: [Dart] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dart-dscp-rtp-0… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Dart] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dart-dscp-rtp-0… Black, David