Re: [Dart] I-D Action: draft-york-dart-dscp-rtp-00.txt

Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Sun, 15 June 2014 07:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dart] I-D Action: draft-york-dart-dscp-rtp-00.txt
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On 06/15/2014 07:20 AM, Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei) wrote:
> On Jun 15, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Paul E. Jones <paulej@packetizer.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Harald Alvestrand" <harald@alvestrand.no>
>> To: dart@ietf.org
>> Sent: 6/11/2014 7:09:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Dart] I-D Action: draft-york-dart-dscp-rtp-00.txt
>>
>>> On 06/10/2014 09:44 PM, Black, David wrote:
>>>> Could you suggest a reference that could be cited for usage of an RTP
>>>> packet stream for each MediaStream independent of how many
>>>> MediaStreamTracks each MediaStream contains?
>>> Careful - "RTP packet stream" is one of those concepts that can be meaningless without citing a specific definition.
>>>
>>> draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-grouping-taxonomy is probably the best reference at the moment. It says this about "Packet stream":
>>>
>> Indeed.  I threw my two cents in on the word "Packet Stream". I spoke with (at least some of) the authors asking them to call this "RTP Packet Stream" or to pick something entirely different.  Between "packet stream" and "MediaStream" and "Media Stream" (yeah, those are different, too), the language makes it hard to follow.
> Your issue has been understood and will be addressed.  In fact, Bo has already sent an email confirming that this change will be made for the next version:
>
> "Change the term “Packet Stream” to “RTP Stream” throughout the document, since “Packet Stream” is too unspecific"

That should be "RTP packet stream", with a specific reference to -taxonomy-.

"RTP Stream" is *less* specific than "packet stream".

>
> Cheers,
>
> Gonzalo
>
>>
>>> The term "media flow" doesn't sound to me like a good term to use for this concept.
>>> Would the authors be willing to consider switching to "packet stream"?
>>>
>> I don't have a strong preference, except that I'd prefer to qualify that as "RTP Packet Stream".
>>
>> Paul
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