[datatracker-rqmts] Privacy of lists

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Wed, 03 November 2010 16:09 UTC

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Drilling down a bit more.

At 11:54 AM -0700 11/2/10, SM wrote:
>At 08:36 02-11-10, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>>When you say "who else", do you mean "which other lists include this draft" or "which people who created a list which includes this draft"?
>I meant who are the people who created a list which includes this draft.

Attempt at summarizing: you want people who use the new tool to have to be authenticated, and anyone can see which of the authenticated people created a list that refers to a draft. Yes?

>>Correct: there was an implicit definition (that I can make explicit) of "the person who created the list, whomever that person gives access to, and no one else".
>That sounds fine unless we go down the path where the "following" is used as a measure of whether there is interest in a proposal.

If we don't go down that path (such as I explicitly say in this draft that it cannot be used for such measurements), do you still want the requirement above?

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