Re: [datatracker-rqmts] New Requirement

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Mon, 15 November 2010 20:29 UTC

Return-Path: <housley@vigilsec.com>
X-Original-To: datatracker-rqmts@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: datatracker-rqmts@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3967E3A6D1A for <datatracker-rqmts@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:29:53 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -102.467
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.467 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.095, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_OBFU_Q1=0.227, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QZ7V-76juOlt for <datatracker-rqmts@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:29:52 -0800 (PST)
Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776F53A6D01 for <datatracker-rqmts@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:29:52 -0800 (PST)
Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57789A4742 for <datatracker-rqmts@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 15:30:45 -0500 (EST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net
Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jBA9myuVcIDJ for <datatracker-rqmts@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 15:30:32 -0500 (EST)
Received: from [172.30.1.77] (unknown [12.230.88.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401509A4740 for <datatracker-rqmts@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 15:30:45 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <4CE19885.90401@vigilsec.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 15:31:01 -0500
From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: datatracker-rqmts@ietf.org
References: <069201cb84a5$f3600e60$da202b20$@augustcellars.com> <4CE18751.7030002@gmail.com> <p06240823c9073a421353@[10.20.30.150]> <20101115193902.GB322@shinkuro.com> <p06240800c907401a1c26@[10.20.30.249]>
In-Reply-To: <p06240800c907401a1c26@[10.20.30.249]>
X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: Re: [datatracker-rqmts] New Requirement
X-BeenThere: datatracker-rqmts@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: <datatracker-rqmts.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/datatracker-rqmts>, <mailto:datatracker-rqmts-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/datatracker-rqmts>
List-Post: <mailto:datatracker-rqmts@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:datatracker-rqmts-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/datatracker-rqmts>, <mailto:datatracker-rqmts-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:29:53 -0000

Paul:

>>> That's not what Jim said. His example was some private data in the Datatracker.
>>
>> I don't have time for a more detailed comment right now, but do we
>> really think it a good idea to be adding private data to the
>> datatracker?  Public systems with private data in them are mostly a
>> nightmare.
> 
> Henrik can comment more fully about the private data stored in the Datatracker. I'm pretty sure there is a bunch of it for the ISE, for the IESG, and so on.

The IESG has the ability to mark comments as private, but I have not
seen one in the last six years or more.

I think we should avoid non-public data unless it provides high value.
So, the question is whether private lists are sufficiently valuable.

Russ