Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-face BoF next week
Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Tue, 02 November 2010 16:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-face BoF next week
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Hi, On 2010-11-02 16:04 SM said: > Hi Paul, > At 15:28 01-11-10, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> Greetings again. I have uploaded the proposed slides for the BoF to >> the IETF site; see <http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/79/slides/iddtspec-0.pdf>. > > On Page 12: > > "Lots of reasons why someone would not > someone else to know which drafts they are > following" > > Did you forget a word in there? > > That page is about "Lists should be able to be private". Do you > really want to get into a discussion about privacy? As the work of > the IETF is supposed to be open, I suggest letting anyone who is > "subscribed" to a draft see who else is following it. Otherwise, > you'll have to define who should have access to the information. No, I think that's turned around. I think it's as wrong to assume that personal configuration information is public by default. With the possibility to create personal configuration information which resides on the server (something we haven't really had a lot of on the IETF servers up till now) the assumption should be that that individual configuration information is private unless the person chooses to make it public. This following isn't an exact parallel, but with email, we have a situation where list email is public, and the whole purpose of list emails are to reach people publicly; while emails sent to individual persons outside of a list are not (and should not be) automatically assumed to be public. Thus information is only automatically public when it's explicitly intended to be so. When you bookmark web pages in your web browser the information is private, unless you explicitly publish the information. When you subscribe to a feed, that information resides in your feed reader (or in the Google Reader) and it's not public unless you make it so. With the possibility to individually configure services provided by the IETF servers, we should (I think) respect that people don't necessarily want others to know what they configure. If they want people to know, they are free to make the information public, but we shouldn't force the information to be public. That would most likely make these services less valuable than they could be to a lot of people, and that seems less than optimal to me. Henrik
- [datatracker-rqmts] Expected user interactions in… Paul Hoffman
- [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-face B… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… SM
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Fred Baker
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Russ Housley
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Royer Software and Services
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Royer Software and Services
- [datatracker-rqmts] Legal issues Paul Hoffman
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Paul Hoffman
- [datatracker-rqmts] What are WG drafts? Paul Hoffman
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Royer Software and Services
- [datatracker-rqmts] Lists not kept by the Datatra… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] What are WG drafts? Fred Baker
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… SM
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] What are WG drafts? Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Yaron Sheffer
- [datatracker-rqmts] Privacy of lists Paul Hoffman
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Privacy of lists Barry Leiba
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Privacy of lists SM
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Privacy of lists Paul Hoffman
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Slides for the face-to-fa… Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Privacy of lists SM
- Re: [datatracker-rqmts] Legal issues Russ Housley