Re: [dbound] The proposals before us

"Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> Thu, 01 September 2016 14:43 UTC

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From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>, "dbound@ietf.org" <dbound@ietf.org>
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From: dbound [mailto:dbound-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Murray S. Kucherawy
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Subject: [dbound] The proposals before us

OK, let's get going.  It's time to make progress or die.
The proposals before us:
* ODUP (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-deccio-dbound-organizational-domain-policy/)
* John Levine's proposal (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-levine-dbound-dns/)
* SOPA (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sullivan-domain-policy-authority/)
Given that we are now constraining ourselves to dealing with the email case only, do we have a clear preference for one of these to adopt and develop?  As I recall, we (especially the authors) all had homework to review these under this new scope constraint and provide critical feedback with a goal of making a selection of some kind for the working group to develop.  Does anyone have such comments to get us moving here?
My team has implemented a proof of concept of ODUP and tested it with some hacking in Firefox and Postfix. It seems to work just fine.

Scott