Re: [dbound] [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-dcrocker-dns-perimeter-00.txt

Dave Crocker <dcrocker@bbiw.net> Thu, 04 April 2019 01:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dbound] [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-dcrocker-dns-perimeter-00.txt
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On 4/3/2019 6:27 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
>>>  by a specific label in the query?  I'm reasonably sure the answer is
>>>  "never" but you might ask dnsop to be sure.
>>
>> my proposal does not 'add a feature to the DNS'.  It uses existing DNS 
>> mechanisms and does not change the DNS protocol or its formats.


People often confuse additions to /use/ of a service with changes /to/ 
the service.  This would be the former, not the latter.

Or perhaps you can point to the DNS specs and registries, showing where 
they specify the constrained set of Additional responses that I'm 
calling for modifying?  I'm not finding such a list.

d/

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Dave Crocker
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