Re: [dbound] [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-dcrocker-dns-perimeter-00.txt

Jothan Frakes <jothan@jothan.com> Wed, 03 April 2019 20:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dbound] [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-dcrocker-dns-perimeter-00.txt
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> ... registrar
> GUIs are perhaps the main barrier for new RRTYPEs ...

s/registrar/DNS Management/

these are often not one in the same - and the only reason I make that
pedantic distinction is that the frequent situation where
DNS Management != registrar
heavily impedes DNSSEC end-to-end configuration, because it needs
config harmony within the registration path (registrar) and the
resolution path (DNS)

Hope that made sense.  Just want to ensure these are not conflated to
avoid drag on efforts