Re: [Dcrouting] [Rift] kicking off the charter discussion
Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Sat, 06 January 2018 21:35 UTC
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From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 13:35:48 -0800
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To: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>, Petr Lapukhov <petr@fb.com>
Cc: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>, "dcrouting@ietf.org" <dcrouting@ietf.org>, lsvr@ietf.org, rift@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Dcrouting] [Rift] kicking off the charter discussion
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Hi Robert, I recall presentation by Petr Lapukhov on Open/R and Terragraph where the principle of optimized flooding was used. Of course, algorithms and mechanics of the Open/R in Terragraph may be different from those proposed in the draft An Architecture for Dynamic Flooding on Dense Graphs. I believe it will be very interesting and helpful to look at the proposed dynamic flooding from the point of experience of the Open/R and Terragraph. Regards, Greg On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: > Hi Alvaro, > > Happy New Year !!! > > > That was pretty much the question asked during the dcrouting BOF in > Singapore. > > Well .. in Singapore and during most of list discussions dynamic flooding > proposal was not on the table. Now it is. > > To me this is game changer and any conclusions reached previously IMHO > should now be revisited. > > As far as outcome of the BOF - I am not sure how the conclusion was > derived that we need new protocols - especially only those presented. In > real practical cases a lot of DC clusters are build with at most few > hundreds of L3 nodes which in all flavors of current link state > implementations will work just fine as is. > > For MSDCs use of either eBGP or Open/R is deployed. > > Now dynamic flooding can extend link state to scale much larger. > > Personally IMHO this case is solved. Maybe time to move on to other areas > ? :) > > Best, > R. > > > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:02 AM, Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On January 5, 2018 at 5:48:23 AM, Robert Raszuk (robert@raszuk.net) >> wrote: >> >> Robert: >> >> Hi! Happy New Year! >> >> Do we really need yet one more new routing protocol vs relatively minor >> extension of existing link state protocols ? >> >> >> That was pretty much the question asked during the dcrouting BOF in >> Singapore. Starting from the assumption that one size doesn’t fit all, the >> room showed interest in working on solutions beyond the current work in >> isis/ospf (which was also quickly reviewed there). >> >> To be clear, the intent of chartering rift doesn’t mean that work in >> other WGs (including new proposals) should stop. Quite the contrary, if >> there is sustained interest in this effort, then we will go on with it — if >> there isn’t (for whatever reason), then it will be clear as well. Note >> that I asked the proponents to constrain the proposed charter to work items >> that should be able to be delivered within a short timeframe (around a >> year) — so that we can reassess the interest, and re-charter if appropriate. >> >> The above obviously applies to the lsvr (aka BGP-SPF) proposal, so I’m >> cc’ing that list here to avoid repeating the discussion there. Also, I >> noticed you forwarded your message to dcrouting, so I’m cc’ing that list as >> well. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Alvaro. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Dcrouting mailing list > Dcrouting@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrouting > >
- [Dcrouting] Fwd: [Rift] kicking off the charter d… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Dcrouting] [Rift] kicking off the charter di… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Dcrouting] [Rift] kicking off the charter di… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Dcrouting] [Rift] kicking off the charter di… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Dcrouting] [Lsvr] [Rift] kicking off the cha… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [Dcrouting] [Lsvr] [Rift] kicking off the cha… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Dcrouting] [Rift] kicking off the charter di… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Dcrouting] [Rift] kicking off the charter di… Robert Raszuk