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Re: [Dcrup] draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage and document shepherds

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Mon, 12 June 2017 07:23 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 00:23:16 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Dcrup] draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage and document shepherds
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On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com>
wrote:

> The IETF is five years late with action on this front.  At least.
> Whatever is
> happening in this working group, hurrying isn't on the list.
>

Then I don't understand why this thread seems to be so tense with
frustration.

I have no idea what should be in this draft or if it should even exist
> anymore.
>

I really don't think the proposed changes are all that major here.


> I also really don't understand why we have a discussion about if a draft
> should be adopted before a WG adopts it if we just get to re-have the same
> discussion periodically.
>

You think working groups should not be allowed to revisit their choices?

-MSK

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