Re: [Dcrup] last call updated draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-13
Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com> Mon, 18 June 2018 22:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Dcrup] last call updated draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-13
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OK. John?? Versions are cheap, after all. Scott K On Monday, June 18, 2018 05:47:59 PM Russ Housley wrote: > That would resolve my issue completely. > > Russ > > > On Jun 18, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com> wrote: > > > > OK. Maybe added to the end of the paragraph in section 6: > > > > Current: > > > > 6. Transition Considerations > > > > For backward compatibility, signers can add multiple signatures that > > use old and new signing algorithms. Since there can only be a single > > key record in the DNS for each selector, the signatures have to use > > different selectors, although they can use the same d= and i= > > identifiers. > > > > Proposed: > > > > 6. Transition Considerations > > > > For backward compatibility, signers can add multiple signatures that > > use old and new signing algorithms. Since there can only be a single > > key record in the DNS for each selector, the signatures have to use > > different selectors, although they can use the same d= and i= > > identifiers. Appendix A.3 shows an example message signed with both > > ed25519-sha256 and rsa-sha256 with the same d= and i=, but unique > > selectors (s=brisbane and s=test respectively). > > > > Scott K > > > > On Monday, June 18, 2018 05:38:55 PM Russ Housley wrote: > >> Frankly, I missed it. The intro text to A.3 provides no hint that the > >> example is showing two signatures using different algorithms. > >> > >> The text is repeated below so that other readers do not need to look it > >> up. > >> > >> Russ > >> > >> = = = = = = = = > >> > >> A.3. Signed Message > >> > >> The text in each line of the message starts at the first position > >> except for the continuation lines on the DKIM-Signature headers which > >> start with a single space. A blank line follows the "Joe." line. > >> > >> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; > >> > >> d=football.example.com; i=@football.example.com; > >> q=dns/txt; s=brisbane; t=1528637909; h=from : to : > >> subject : date : message-id : from : subject : date; > >> bh=2jUSOH9NhtVGCQWNr9BrIAPreKQjO6Sn7XIkfJVOzv8=; > >> b=/gCrinpcQOoIfuHNQIbq4pgh9kyIK3AQUdt9OdqQehSwhEIug4D11Bus > >> Fa3bT3FY5OsU7ZbnKELq+eXdp1Q1Dw== > >> > >> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; > >> > >> d=football.example.com; i=@football.example.com; > >> q=dns/txt; s=test; t=1528637909; h=from : to : subject : > >> date : message-id : from : subject : date; > >> bh=2jUSOH9NhtVGCQWNr9BrIAPreKQjO6Sn7XIkfJVOzv8=; > >> b=F45dVWDfMbQDGHJFlXUNB2HKfbCeLRyhDXgFpEL8GwpsRe0IeIixNTe3 > >> DhCVlUrSjV4BwcVcOF6+FF3Zo9Rpo1tFOeS9mPYQTnGdaSGsgeefOsk2Jz > >> dA+L10TeYt9BgDfQNZtKdN1WO//KgIqXP7OdEFE4LjFYNcUxZQ4FADY+8= > >> > >> From: Joe SixPack <joe@football.example.com> > >> To: Suzie Q <suzie@shopping.example.net> > >> Subject: Is dinner ready? > >> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 21:00:37 -0700 (PDT) > >> Message-ID: <20030712040037.46341.5F8J@football.example.com> > >> > >> Hi. > >> > >> We lost the game. Are you hungry yet? > >> > >> Joe. > >>> > >>> On Jun 18, 2018, at 4:37 PM, Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> I think we have that in the current revision in Appendix A.3. Do we > >>> need > >>> to specifically refer to that in Section 6? > >>> > >>> Scott K > >>> > >>> On Monday, June 18, 2018 04:23:09 PM Russ Housley wrote: > >>>> John: > >>>> > >>>> How hard would it be to expand section 6 to include an example of two > >>>> selectors being used, one with RSA and one with ed25519? If it is > >>>> pretty > >>>> easy, I think it would help the reader. > >>>> > >>>> Russ > >>>> > >>>>> On Jun 15, 2018, at 8:19 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I think the -13 addresses the last call comments. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for > >>>>> Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. > >>>>> https://jl.ly > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Dcrup mailing list > >>>>> Dcrup@ietf.org > >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrup > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Dcrup mailing list > >>>> Dcrup@ietf.org > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrup > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Dcrup mailing list > >>> Dcrup@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrup > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Dcrup mailing list > >> Dcrup@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dcrup mailing list > > Dcrup@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrup > > _______________________________________________ > Dcrup mailing list > Dcrup@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrup
- Re: [Dcrup] [taugh.com-standards] Re:Re: [Gen-art… John R. Levine
- Re: [Dcrup] [taugh.com-standards] Re: [Gen-art] G… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Dcrup] [taugh.com-standards] [Gen-art] Genar… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Dcrup] [taugh.com-standards] Re: [Gen-art] G… John R. Levine
- Re: [Dcrup] [Gen-art] Genart last call review of … Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Dcrup] last call updated draft-ietf-dcrup-dk… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [Dcrup] last call updated draft-ietf-dcrup-dk… Russ Housley
- Re: [Dcrup] last call updated draft-ietf-dcrup-dk… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [Dcrup] last call updated draft-ietf-dcrup-dk… Russ Housley
- Re: [Dcrup] last call updated draft-ietf-dcrup-dk… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [Dcrup] last call updated draft-ietf-dcrup-dk… Russ Housley
- [Dcrup] last call updated draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-c… John R. Levine
- [Dcrup] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dcr… Pete Resnick