Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-ecc-00.txt
"Rose, Scott" <scott.rose@nist.gov> Fri, 02 June 2017 15:07 UTC
Return-Path: <scott.rose@nist.gov>
X-Original-To: dcrup@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dcrup@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28098120454 for <dcrup@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 08:07:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.222
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.222 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LFjc7guyPf9v for <dcrup@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 08:07:18 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from wsget1.nist.gov (wsget1.nist.gov [129.6.13.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A607F12EBCA for <dcrup@ietf.org>; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 08:07:18 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from WSGHUB1.xchange.nist.gov (129.6.42.34) by wsget1.nist.gov (129.6.13.150) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.319.2; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 11:07:02 -0400
Received: from postmark.nist.gov (129.6.16.94) by mail-g.nist.gov (129.6.42.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.319.2; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 11:07:16 -0400
Received: from [129.6.140.7] ([129.6.140.7]) by postmark.nist.gov (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id v52F6WuK011086; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 11:06:32 -0400
From: "Rose, Scott" <scott.rose@nist.gov>
To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
CC: dcrup@ietf.org
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 11:06:32 -0400
Message-ID: <A0F8C7D6-1BCA-49B8-9317-BDD76932E2D2@nist.gov>
In-Reply-To: <885BDE45-DFB7-4BC5-8C98-C5D40C82DAE3@vigilsec.com>
References: <149641449629.31859.14544571541039601302@ietfa.amsl.com> <2D2E54E1-23A0-4470-85AD-F861770B10B1@nist.gov> <885BDE45-DFB7-4BC5-8C98-C5D40C82DAE3@vigilsec.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.6r5347)
X-NIST-MailScanner-Information:
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dcrup/d1CJg61f-3Af2sO0Hxl2GoW1adk>
Subject: Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-ecc-00.txt
X-BeenThere: dcrup@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: DKIM Crypto Update <dcrup.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dcrup>, <mailto:dcrup-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dcrup/>
List-Post: <mailto:dcrup@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dcrup-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrup>, <mailto:dcrup-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 15:07:25 -0000
Mainly to have something pre-defined if SHA-256 is found to be vulnerable. I’m not very concerned about that, if the community is responsive in the event that does happen. I have no qualms about dropping it since it gives the draft a single focus. It’s more for potential future-proofing. Scott On 2 Jun 2017, at 10:53, Russ Housley wrote: > Scott: > > Since ECDSA P-256 and SHA-256 have the same security strength, what is > the reason for adding SHA-512 at this time? I do not see anything in > the Introduction or Security Considerations to answer that question. > > Russ > > > >> On Jun 2, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Rose, Scott <scott.rose@nist.gov> wrote: >> >> Updated to reflect WG status. Also made the following changes: >> >> 1. Reduced new algorithms list to just one (ECDSA P=256). >> >> 2. Included revised definition of key:value pairs for DKIM keys and >> signatures. One thing I thought about: should the “k=“ in keys >> to be mandatory now that RSA isn’t the only algorithm? Or leave >> the default as is, so that anyone using ECDSA must use the “k=“ >> tag to signal its use? >> >> 3. Just noticed that the format is mess up for the ABNF notation - >> dang. Will fix that. >> >> Scott >> >> On 2 Jun 2017, at 10:41, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>> directories. >>> This draft is a work item of the DKIM Crypto Update of the IETF. >>> >>> Title : Defining Elliptic Curve Cryptography >>> Algorithms for use with DKIM >>> Author : Scott Rose >>> Filename : draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-ecc-00.txt >>> Pages : 7 >>> Date : 2017-06-02 >>> >>> Abstract: >>> DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) uses digital signature to >>> associate >>> a message with a given sending domain. Currently, there is only >>> one >>> cryptography algorithm defined for use with DKIM (RSA). This >>> document defines four new elliptic curve cryptography algorithms >>> for >>> use with DKIM. This will allow for algorithm agility if a >>> weakness >>> is found in RSA, and allows for smaller key length to provide the >>> same digital signature strength. >>> >>> >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-ecc/ >>> >>> There are also htmlized versions available at: >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-ecc-00 >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-ecc-00 >>> >>> >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>> submission >>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>> >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dcrup mailing list >>> Dcrup@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrup >> >> >> =================================== >> Scott Rose >> NIST ITL >> scott.rose@nist.gov >> +1-301-975-8439 >> GV: +1-571-249-3671 >> =================================== >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dcrup mailing list >> Dcrup@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrup > > _______________________________________________ > Dcrup mailing list > Dcrup@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrup =================================== Scott Rose NIST ITL scott.rose@nist.gov +1-301-975-8439 GV: +1-571-249-3671 ===================================
- [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-ecc-00.… internet-drafts
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-ecc… Rose, Scott
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-ecc… Russ Housley
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-ecc… Rose, Scott
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-ecc… John Levine