Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-02.txt
Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Sat, 10 June 2017 09:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-02.txt
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I find the construction of this draft strange. Why not simply say "verifiers MUST implement and use rsa-sha256 instead of rsa-sha1"? The remainder of the text is largely unchanged, which took me a while to validate. The problem here is that removing the definition of rsa-sha1 is not the point. The code point can't be undefined (Section 7 gets that right), and we don't really benefit from having the definition removed. What we want is to have rsa-sha256 implemented and deployed. So say two things, just to be perfectly clear: 1. DKIM implementations MUST NOT rely on rsa-sha1, it's busted. 2. DKIM implementations MUST use rsa-sha256. Signers MUST create signatures using rsa-sha256 and verifiers MUST verify those signatures. I disagree with John about the publication of this draft without the new schemes. It's worth doing now and the extra overheads of publication are small. Nits: Section 3, two errors here: > One algorithms, rsa-sha256, is currenlty defined. Section 3.2 s/,/ / here: > DKIM,[RFC6376] Section 6 has an extra period. Collapse Section 7.1 into Section 7: """ IANA is requested to update the "sha1" registration in the "DKIM Hash Algorithms" as follows: <table> """ On 8 June 2017 at 06:47, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the DKIM Crypto Update of the IETF. > > Title : Cryptographic Algorithm and Key Usage Update to DKIM > Author : Scott Kitterman > Filename : draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-02.txt > Pages : 6 > Date : 2017-06-07 > > Abstract: > The cryptographic algorithm and key size requirements included when > DKIM was designed in the last decade are functionally obsolete and in > need of immediate revision. This document updates DKIM requirements > to those minimaly suitable for operation with currently specified > algorithms. This document updates RFC 6376. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-02 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-02 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-02 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Dcrup mailing list > Dcrup@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcrup
- [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-0… internet-drafts
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Russ Housley
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Mark D. Baushke
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Dcrup] stronger crypto, I-D Action: draft-ie… John Levine
- Re: [Dcrup] stronger crypto, I-D Action: draft-ie… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Dcrup] stronger crypto, I-D Action: draft-ie… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Dcrup] stronger crypto, I-D Action: draft-ie… John R Levine
- Re: [Dcrup] stronger crypto, I-D Action: draft-ie… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Dcrup] stronger crypto, I-D Action: draft-ie… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Dcrup] stronger crypto, I-D Action: draft-ie… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Dcrup] stronger crypto, I-D Action: draft-ie… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Dcrup] stronger crypto, I-D Action: draft-ie… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Jim Fenton
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Jim Fenton
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usa… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [Dcrup] stronger crypto, I-D Action: draft-ie… Phillip Hallam-Baker