Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06
Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com> Mon, 18 September 2017 17:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06
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On Monday, September 18, 2017 10:13:52 AM Jim Fenton wrote: > On 9/15/17 10:15 PM, John Levine wrote: > > In article <1739837.QWERb01LVO@kitterma-e6430> you write: > >>> As far as I can tell, this is about as done as it's going to get. > >> > >> Do we really need to add both rsafp and ed25519? > >> > >> I thought we had ~agreed (or at least discussed) earlier to only add > >> ed25519> > > In July I proposed only doing EC but there was no consensus. I would > > prefer not to rerun old arguments unless we have learned something new in > > the meantime. > I haven't found your proposal, but I asked on Jabber at the Prague > meeting whether one or the other would suffice, and repeated that > question on the list. See thread "Do we need both hashed RSA and > elliptic curves?" that begins on 21 July. There were responses from 7 > people including you, and I didn't see anyone arguing that we should > have both (although it's not my place to judge consensus). > > We would be doing a disservice if we require everyone to support two > ways of solving the key length problem unless there is a compelling > reason to do so. > > I also support the use of elliptic curve signatures rather than rsafp. > Part of the reason is that rsafp may have IPR issues (see disclosure > 3025). AFAIK EC signatures avoid this problem unless the selector DNS > record contains a hash of the public key, which shouldn't be necessary > because the key is shorter. I have no opinion on the choice of curve used. Those all make sense to me. I don't recall anyone pushing hard for retaining both and, while I agree there was never a formal consensus call by the chairs, it seemed like that was definitely the direction the group was leaning. Scott K
- [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 John R Levine
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 John Levine
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 James Cloos
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 John R Levine
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Salz, Rich
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Scott Kitterman
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Jim Fenton
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 James Cloos
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 John Levine
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 James Cloos
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Jim Fenton
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Scott Kitterman
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 John Levine
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 John Levine
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 John Levine
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 denis bider
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Dcrup] I-D draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-crypto-06 Salz, Rich